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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

HappyHacker1 said:
What an absolute shambles, she has to go, she has to resign, regardless of whether you think it's the wrong or right time to go, a message needs to go out to the public that what she did was unacceptable.

On another point, 2 or 3 weeks back I said we'd have 5000 deaths by the end of the month and a few had a go more or less saying I was talking nonsense, seems I was only about 4 days out. Just goes to show that not all were actually paying much attention to what was going on on 2 or 3 weeks back.
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Yup. Taking a disspassionate analytic look at the data it looks as if the 'death curve' is a few days behind the recorded infections. The shape in other country's data is fairly similar. I guess the UK is hoping that by reducing the kurtosis and praying the data has a skew below zero the death rate will be a steeper negative than It is now when It is rising but at hopefully slower rate.

IF the death curve tracks the infections (despite this being dependent on testing capability) we can expect the current level of fatalities to continue for another 3 weeks (8000 to 10000) before dropping for 3 or 4 weeks (another 3000 to 4000). Should the skew be 0 or above 1 we could be in isolation until July and tragically even more will die.

For simplicity it assumes random infection.
 
Fish said:
I disagree, it’s what we’re having drummed into us, no unnecessary travel, which hers most definitely was. She at first attempted to say she practiced safe distancing, but we could all say that after a 30+ mile drive to the coast, so yes it’s a big deal, because as Matt H clearly states, this is law, not a request, and she broke it!
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Well I have my own opinion on things in regards moving about from place to place and they don't comply with gvt instructions so we'll agree to disagree.
 
Fish said:
*Finally, some sensible advice. From a GP Nurse in the UK.*

MOD EDIT. THIS HAS BEEN DOING THE ROUNDS ON FACEBOOK AND MAY NOT BE TOTALLY ACCURATE

This is to inform us all that the pH for corona virus varies from 5.5 to 8.5.

All we need to do, to beat corona virus, we need to take more of an alkaline foods that are above the above pH level of the Virus.

Some of which are:
*Lemon - 9.9pH*
*Lime - 8.2pH*
*Avocado - 15.6pH*
*Garlic - 13.2pH*
*Mango - 8.7pH*
*Tangerine - 8.5pH*
*Pineapple - 12.7pH*
*Dandelion - 22.7pH*
*Orange - 9.2pH*

How do you know you have coronavirus?

1. *Itching in the throat,*
2. *Dry throat,*
3. *Dry cough.*
4. High temperature
5. Shortness of breath

So where you notice these things quickly take warm water with lemon and drink.

Do not keep this information to yourself only, Pass it to all your family and friends.

God bless you.
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The part about the alkalinity is nonsense. Ignore. You may as well align your body along the north-south magnetic field of the Earth for all the good it will do you.

Anosmia (loss of taste) is also now a recognised sign of coronavirus, sometimes with loss of smell thrown in.

Another useful device worth considering a is a pulse oximeter which measures oxygen saturation. It attaches to the end of your finger, no pain or discomfort and gives a simple numerical reading. There is evidence that people with coronavirus may experience a falling oxygen saturation with fewer symptoms than usual. This is a bad thing.

You can get them from Amazon for about 20 or 30 quid. I bought one.
 
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she should be sacked. if i got caught setting a small fire to a Bush in the park the police would give me a slap on the wrists. my employer would sack me on the spot because I should know better and it puts out a very bad message
 
HappyHacker1 said:
On another point, 2 or 3 weeks back I said we'd have 5000 deaths by the end of the month and a few had a go more or less saying I was talking nonsense, seems I was only about 4 days out. Just goes to show that not all were actually paying much attention to what was going on on 2 or 3 weeks back.
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Just to be clear, you said

HappyHacker1 said:
They will within a couple of weeks when the UK will be reporting thousands of deaths, I suspect around 5000 before the end of the month.
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I checked, 30th March there were 1,408 deaths.

So some people were paying attention.
Incidentally today's figure is still under 5,000

While that is still shocking, deaths yesterday were reported at 708. Todays figure has dropped to 621

Spain
Yesterday 749 today 471

Italy
Yesterday 681
Today 525

Germany
Yesterday 169
Today 79

Netherlands
Yesterday 164
Today115

So although we're certainly not out of the woods yet, there may be something positive happening.
Let's hope so for everyone's sake.
 
bobmac said:
Just to be clear, you said



I checked, 30th March there were 1,408 deaths.

So some people were paying attention.
Incidentally today's figure is still under 5,000

While that is still shocking, deaths yesterday were reported at 708. Todays figure has dropped to 621

Spain
Yesterday 749 today 471

Italy
Yesterday 681
Today 525

Germany
Yesterday 169
Today 79

Netherlands
Yesterday 164
Today115

So although we're certainly not out of the woods yet, there may be something positive happening.
Let's hope so for everyone's sake.
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Well found, I took ages trying to find that post and couldn't.

Yes indeed we are still below the 5k mark though I did say around that mark. I've also noticed the death rate falling in the likes of Italy/Spain but suspect ours will pop up again as it has in these other two countries in the past couple of weeks.
 
Two major points on the news from today.

The idiot Scottish health woman - she needs to be sacked on the spot. She has done more damage to the public view on the virus than anyone else in the country.

The idiot British public - sunbathing in parks, going for long walks miles from home (Virginia Water was packed with cars all down the A30 according to Surrey Police) - BBQs, going to the beach etc - we are all going to be in complete lockdown later this week - no exercising etc. Thanks a lot to the morons out there.
 
My next door neighbor is spending more than eight hours a day away from home. Now before you say it's work or looking after grandkids .no it isn't . They do go to her daughter's but to have a family get together with all the family turning up , how do I know .they told me it's up to them what they do and not some stuffy pm to tell her to stay at home. Now if I were to complain to the relevant authority would they do anything about it .I bet they wouldn't give a toss .but it boils my wee wee that they have a total disregard for the situation and openly admit to doing so .morons !!
 
bobmac said:
While that is still shocking, deaths yesterday were reported at 708. Todays figure has dropped to 621

Spain
Yesterday 749 today 471

Italy
Yesterday 681
Today 525

Germany
Yesterday 169
Today 79

Netherlands
Yesterday 164
Today115

So although we're certainly not out of the woods yet, there may be something positive happening.
Let's hope so for everyone's sake.
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Beware the weekend under-reporting, seen previously, with a bounce back up on Monday or Tuesday.
 
On the Scottish CMO question, I think she has been incredibly stupid, but I am not sure if her resigning now is a good idea. A suitably penitent CMO might show that the advice/regulations do apply to everyone.

On the general question of travel, I agree that unnecessary travel should be discouraged, but the hazard is not in the travel itself, but in what happens when you get to wherever you are going. If that is a drive of a mile to get out of a busy area where you wouldn't be able to observe good social distancing to one where you can, or to get to a area with footpaths so you can run safely, then that is a sensible thing to do with probably reduces risk overall.

Before someone says, 'Ah, but what if you have an accident?', vanishingly unlikely. By the same logic, the rozzers should be stopping cars, and if the driver says they are going to Tesco, redirect them to Asda because it is closer.
 
Fish said:
What a pathetic response, we’re in a world pandemic where people are dying because a virus spreads through movement of people, and you come back with that,
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I'm going to assume you have broke the speed limits seeing as you got very aggressive with your reply so not much point in continuing to discuss this with someone who can't debate without abusing another member.
 
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HappyHacker1 said:
Twice, within a week, after having stood on live TV telling everyone what THEY should do, she made a serious error of judgement, TWICE.


Don't you think that calls in to question her judgement on other things ?
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Not from a medical perspective from what I can see, not that I am qualified in any way.
We have to look at the big picture now which is about saving lives [in case anyone had forgotten]
The sight of all those slavering Unionist hacks using this opportunity take a pop at the First Minister at the press conference was pretty depressing.
 
First of all, I like the Italian cufflinks just above. I only have a few French cuffed shirts left, but I would like a pair of those. Maybe with a matching lapel pin.
Second, I just sent out a series of emails to my friends from the club, all seniors, and thankfully, everybody replied.

Right now, it occurs to me that I miss hanging out at the club more than I miss playing golf. I wouldn't be playing a lot of golf in chilly April anyway, but I socialize at the club all through the year. Not now, of course.
 
Doon frae Troon said:
Not from a medical perspective from what I can see, not that I am qualified in any way.
We have to look at the big picture now which is about saving lives [in case anyone had forgotten]
The sight of all those slavering Unionist hacks using this opportunity take a pop at the First Minister at the press conference was pretty depressing.
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I'm not a unionist, anything but and do find it rather pathetic those having a go at NS but as for the CMO, if for no other reason than to satisfy public anger, she needs to to fall on her sword.
 
Ye Olde Boomer said:
First of all, I like the Italian cufflinks just above. I only have a few French cuffed shirts left, but I would like a pair of those. Maybe with a matching lapel pin.
Second, I just sent out a series of emails to my friends from the club, all seniors, and thankfully, everybody replied.

Right now, it occurs to me that I miss hanging out at the club more than I miss playing golf. I wouldn't be playing a lot of golf in chilly April anyway, but I socialize at the club all through the year. Not now, of course.
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Can you not skype or zoom with your friends ?

https://www.cnet.com/news/skype-vs-zoom-video-chat-apps-for-working-from-home-compared/
 
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