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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Nah it's all a unionist stitch up, DfT will soon be screaming from the head of someone in the government but that's his hypercritical way.
How about leaving it to the Scots to decide...down in England I suggest we haven’t a scoobies whether of not the Scottish CMO is doing a good job or not - and so worthy of staying in role.

If asked I think she should be sacked as there are too many fools abroad looking for any excuse to do just what they want and stick their fingers up to authority...and her being sacked by the FM would be a very strong statement of the seriousness of the situation for us all, each and every one of us.
 
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I get what Crazyface is saying, the govt is drip feeding us bad news, they said 3 weeks to flatten the curve and give us manageable targets to cope with. They may need to keep isolating us for a year or two years but would never say that, no-one knows how long this will run.
Many people will not be able to handle it long term. No money, claustrophobia, boredom etc.
Civil Unrest is not a term anyone wants to hear but the 'sod this for a game of soldiers we're going out' attitude will increase over time. Money or lack of will drive desperate people too.
We all know current measures are simply so NHS isn't overwhelmed, nothing to do with actually ridding us of the virus, just buying time.

Maybe Sweden have it right?

Hancock's idea of getting those who have had it antibody tested and certificated back to work makes sense. Herd immunity is an ugly term but that's what is happening.

Isn't it true without a vaccine the only way to defeat it is for every single person in the world to fully isolate at the same time for 3 weeks so it runs it's course with those carrying/suffering then dies off without new hosts?
Cannot be done of course because as a humane species we treat our ill and we have to interact to do all manner of things like feed ourselves and keep societies and economies functioning.

Presently we are only just managing it to a degree.

Happy Days!?
Thing is - if the NHS is overwhelmed then many more people will die than need to. That’s why we need pictures of Brits in Brit hospitals on ventilators - and where we see six patients we need to be told very bluntly that statistically at least three of them are likely to die.
 
What an absolute shambles, she has to go, she has to resign, regardless of whether you think it's the wrong or right time to go, a message needs to go out to the public that what she did was unacceptable.

On another point, 2 or 3 weeks back I said we'd have 5000 deaths by the end of the month and a few had a go more or less saying I was talking nonsense, seems I was only about 4 days out. Just goes to show that not all were actually paying much attention to what was going on on 2 or 3 weeks back.
 
How about leaving it to the Scots to decide...down in England I suggest we haven’t a scoobies whether of not the Scottish CMO is doing a good job or not - and so worthy of staying in role.
I don't know if she is good at her job. I don't know if her number 2 is good enough to step into her role to replace her. I do know that her credibility is completely shot though. How can she stand in front of people going forwards and tell them the restrictions they need to follow when she has so clearly flouted them?
 
How about leaving it to the Scots to decide...down in England I suggest we haven’t a scoobies whether of not the Scottish CMO is doing a good job or not - and so worthy of staying in role.
I havnt said whether she has or hadn't done a good job but for the SECOND week running she's pulled this stunt but if the people living in Scotland and the first minister think it's ok then that's obviously ok.
 
I don't know if she is good at her job. I don't know if her number 2 is good enough to step into her role to replace her. I do know that her credibility is completely shot though. How can she stand in front of people going forwards and tell them the restrictions they need to follow when she has so clearly flouted them?
I think she should be sacked - to make the point - unfortunate perhaps but sometimes necessary
 
She will be gone within 24 hours would be my guess, the pressure upon Scot Gov will be too much. It's ban enough her doing so after standing in front of the nation live on TV telling everyone, but to then admit to doing it twice, beggars belief.
 
There will be no stepping down or resignations accepted at this time in my opinion.

Possibly when this is over she will step aside but at the moment unity is required.

What she has done is extremely foolish and ignorant and as CC98 says it has just made the police's job 100 times harder and possibly very hypocritical. She should certainly have been charged for transparency reasons alone, however then again the public cry for discretion so she's also put the police behind the 8 ball.
 
MOD EDIT. THIS HAS BEEN DOING THE ROUNDS ON FACEBOOK AND MAY NOT BE TOTALLY ACCURATE


*Finally, some sensible advice. From a GP Nurse in the UK.*

*To Avoid Covid-19*

What I have seen a lot of are recommendations for how to try to avoid getting coronavirus in the first place.

• good hand washing
• personal hygiene
• social distancing

-- but what I have NOT seen a lot of is advice for what happens if you actually get it, which many of us will.

So as your friendly neighborhood Nurse let me make some suggestions:

*If you get Covid-19*

You basically just want to prepare as though you know you’re going to get a nasty respiratory bug, like bronchitis or pneumonia.

You just have the foresight to know it might come your way!

*Things you should actually buy ahead of time* (not sure what the obsession with toilet paper is?):

• *Kleenex,*

• *Paracetamol*,

• whatever your generic, mucus thinning *cough medicine* of choice is (check the label and make sure you're not doubling up on Paracetamol)

• *Honey and lemon* can work just as well!

• *Vicks* vaporub for your chest is also a great suggestion.

• *a humidifier* would be a good thing to buy and use in your room when you go to bed overnight. (You can also just turn the shower on hot and sit in the bathroom breathing in the steam).

• *If you have a history of asthma* and you have a prescription inhaler, make sure the one you have isn’t expired and refill it/get a new one if necessary.

• *Meals* This is also a good time to meal prep: make a big batch of your favorite soup to freeze and have on hand.

• *Hydrate (drink!) hydrate, hydrate!* Stock up on whatever your favorite clear fluids are to drink - though tap water is fine you may appreciate some variety!

• *For symptom management* and a fever over 38°c, take Paracetamol rather than Ibuprofen.

• *Rest lots*. You should not be leaving your house! Even if you are feeling better you may will still be infectious for fourteen days and older people and those with existing health conditions should be avoided!

• *Wear gloves and a mask* to avoid contaminating others in your house

• *Isolate* in your bedroom if not living alone, ask friends and family to leave supplies outside to avoid contact.

• *Sanitize* your bed linen and clothes frequently by washing and clean your bathroom with recommended sanitizers.

*You DO NOT NEED TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL unless* you are having trouble breathing or your fever is very high (over 39°C) and unmanaged with meds.
90% of healthy adult cases thus far have been managed at home with basic rest/hydration/over-the-counter meds.

*If you are worried or in distress or feel your symptoms are getting worse*

*Preexisting risks* If you have a pre-existing lung condition (COPD, emphysema, lung cancer) or are on immunosuppressants, now is a great time to talk to your Doctor or specialist about what they would like you to do if you get sick.

*Children-* One major relief to you parents is that kids do VERY well with coronavirus— they usually bounce back in a few days (but they will still be infectious), Just use pediatric dosing .

*Be calm and prepare rationally* and everything will be fine.

This is to inform us all that the pH for corona virus varies from 5.5 to 8.5.

All we need to do, to beat corona virus, we need to take more of an alkaline foods that are above the above pH level of the Virus.

Some of which are:
*Lemon - 9.9pH*
*Lime - 8.2pH*
*Avocado - 15.6pH*
*Garlic - 13.2pH*
*Mango - 8.7pH*
*Tangerine - 8.5pH*
*Pineapple - 12.7pH*
*Dandelion - 22.7pH*
*Orange - 9.2pH*

MOD EDIT. THIS HAS BEEN DOING THE ROUNDS ON FACEBOOK AND MAY NOT BE TOTALLY ACCURATE

How do you know you have coronavirus?

1. *Itching in the throat,*
2. *Dry throat,*
3. *Dry cough.*
4. High temperature
5. Shortness of breath

So where you notice these things quickly take warm water with lemon and drink.

Do not keep this information to yourself only, Pass it to all your family and friends.

God bless you.
 
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There will be no stepping down or resignations accepted at this time in my opinion.

Possibly when this is over she will step aside but at the moment unity is required.

What she has done is extremely foolish and ignorant and as CC98 says it has just made the police's job 100 times harder and possibly very hypocritical. She should certainly have been charged for transparency reasons alone, however then again the public cry for discretion so she's also put the police behind the 8 ball.
Is she a doctor?
Maybe a stint back in her scrubs might refresh her moral compass a bit.
 
Nicola's take on the CMO is fine by me, she is doing a very good job but made a serious error of judgement.
We will all make errors during this difficult time.

Twice, within a week, after having stood on live TV telling everyone what THEY should do, she made a serious error of judgement, TWICE.


Don't you think that calls in to question her judgement on other things ?
 
https://www.hachette.co.uk/titles/peter-may/lockdown/9781529411683/
One of my favourite authors...……..written quite a few years ago.

Nicola's take on the CMO is fine by me, she is doing a very good job but made a serious error of judgement.
We will all make errors during this difficult time.

Ffs, it’s not an error, she’s been barking all the laws to follow for long enough to fully understand err stand them, but then she selfishly tried to justify manipulating them for her own personal benefit, she should be sacked or resign, in these difficult times you have to rule with an iron fist, otherwise everyone now will cite her ‘error’, so she has to go, period!
 
For the record, what she actually did wasn't really that big of a deal, t becomes a big deal when you are the one who did it, is the very same person standing on live national tv telling others not to.
 
For the record, what she actually did wasn't really that big of a deal, t becomes a big deal when you are the one who did it, is the very same person standing on live national tv telling others not to.

I disagree, it’s what we’re having drummed into us, no unnecessary travel, which hers most definitely was. She at first attempted to say she practiced safe distancing, but we could all say that after a 30+ mile drive to the coast, so yes it’s a big deal, because as Matt H clearly states, this is law, not a request, and she broke it!
 
How about leaving it to the Scots to decide...down in England I suggest we haven’t a scoobies whether of not the Scottish CMO is doing a good job or not - and so worthy of staying in role.

If asked I think she should be sacked as there are too many fools abroad looking for any excuse to do just what they want and stick their fingers up to authority...and her being sacked by the FM would be a very strong statement of the seriousness of the situation for us all, each and every one of us.

Maybe you should delete the Trump thread too.

I've never been into people falling on their swords. If you're good enough to do a job, the odd mistake doesn't mean you're not capable of doing the job. However, these are extreme times and it needs people to be on the ball. This is a basic error. And if she's capable of making basic, short-sighted errors of judgement would you trust her with the next issue?

Reluctantly, get rid. It also sends a message that needs sending.
 
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