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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

I do a lot of casual observation looking out of the window while at my desktop at home and I can see a definite improvement in people's behaviour in Lockdown 3 compared to Lockdown 1. Sneaky house visits seem to be a thing of the past and with the sun out this afternoon there are a lot of people out having a walk but they are all keeping their distance. That said there are still a number of illicit parties being reported in the local news.
 
DRW said:
Keeping with the positively, the data from Israel is amazing :-

נדב איל Nadav Eyal on Twitter: "פרסום ראשון: מחקר של בכירי משרד הבריאות ובכירים בפייזר (אני יודע, תיכף אגיע לזה): החיסון יעיל בכ-90% נגד הדבקה, כ-93% נגד אשפוזים ונגד תמותה. עושה שימוש במידע מותמם ולא אישי של המתחסנים בישראל, וב"מתחסנים" הכוונה היא לשבוע אחרי מנה שנייה. מתייחס לאמצע ינואר עד פבר'. @ynetalerts https://t.co/R1RpdAlCFJ" / Twitter

Just in case you cant get your computer to translate it says :-



Real world results for Pfizer, mainly old people data, amazing results in this age range, far greater than I was hoping for, just a few months ago. Hopefully the case/death figures will keep dropping and dropping.

Plenty of light coming for next autumn/winter and hope summer arrives early here and oxford vaccine real life results in older people come in just as good in due course.

Lockdown sucks, some of the rules are rubbish, but feeling positive, forward we march, bring on the summer!
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Israel got priority access to vaccine in exchange for data on the outcomes. It is perfectly normal and proper for pharma company scientists and physicians to be included on clinical papers of this sort.

I am not surprised the real world effects are as good as the clinical trial effects because the trial populations were pretty representative and broad and effects were very consistent across age, gender, ethnicity etc and thus likely to generalise to the population. A lot of the reception of effect in real world comes with medicines which people start to take less reliably with time, forgetting pills or whatever. That obviously doesn't happen with the vaccine.
 
SatchFan said:
I do a lot of casual observation looking out of the window while at my desktop at home and I can see a definite improvement in people's behaviour in Lockdown 3 compared to Lockdown 1. Sneaky house visits seem to be a thing of the past and with the sun out this afternoon there are a lot of people out having a walk but they are all keeping their distance. That said there are still a number of illicit parties being reported in the local news.
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Opposite of what I'm seeing..... People are fed up.
 
SatchFan said:
I do a lot of casual observation looking out of the window while at my desktop at home and I can see a definite improvement in people's behaviour in Lockdown 3 compared to Lockdown 1. Sneaky house visits seem to be a thing of the past and with the sun out this afternoon there are a lot of people out having a walk but they are all keeping their distance. That said there are still a number of illicit parties being reported in the local news.
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I think that weather probably plays a large part. During lockdown 1 we didn't ever go into anyone else's house however I was happy enough to visit to sit in the garden and have a beer or three. I wouldn't consider that now mainly because it's baltic outside so not nearly as pleasant!!
 
Swinglowandslow said:
No, the reality is the graph.If I've understood it correctly- Small gatherings that shouldn't have happened.
They would have been breaches of guidance/rules.
So, SR is right. People misbehaving.
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It’s from Nov 20. Has no bearing on current infection rate causes. SR & SILH are pontificating on infections now. They wouldn’t have been breeches in Nov.
 
Work have introduced weekly tests for high risk groups who work closely.
Done my first test today. Hopefully a covid holiday comes my way. Every man and his dog has had one some form of isolation period either kids were positive or partners. One has even had three periods off.
 
D-S said:
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Who is suggesting that there is a blocking of transmission of the virus by the vaccinated?
It would be good if it were correct, but why would someone who picks up the virus, but isn't ill because they are vaccinated, not be able to pass it on?
I understood that this is what was not known- what data and from whom has said otherwise?
If it is not a fact, then it is a dangerous thing to say, because believing that you cannot pass on a virus because you have been vaccinated can lead to increased infections.
 
road2ruin said:
As already mentioned, the answer is likely to be that it is because we are simply not in lockdown. Schools are full of children that are the offspring of 'apparent' keyworkers. A larger number of employers are demanding that staff go to their places of work rather than WFH. More shops are open as 'essential' that were not open in Lockdown 1.0. These accompanied with the more transmissible variants probably account for the vast majority of the new infections.

Reading the media you'd think the vast majority of the population are out gallivanting around and breaking rules however in reality it's a noisy minority however the truth doesn't make nearly so much an interesting story or clickbait online.
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It doesn't take a vast majority to create the numbers of infections we are currently seeing, a noisy minority are quite capable. You only have to go back a short time to see daily infection rates of 60k, we have the same varients going around so it's only the restriction of people meeting up that reduces infection rates. There isn't an increase of people having to turn up at work either.
 
SocketRocket said:
It doesn't take a vast majority to create the numbers of infections we are currently seeing, a noisy minority are quite capable. You only have to go back a short time to see daily infection rates of 60k, we have the same varients going around so it's only the restriction of people meeting up that reduces infection rates. There isn't an increase of people having to turn up at work either.
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Sadly that's correct. In a country of 70 million people even if only 1% are not following the rules that's an extra 700000 people that aren't doing what's needed to suppress the virus. On top of the essential workers in the NHS, schools, supermarkets and delivery drivers etc it's easy to see how we are still at 10 -20k infections per day.
 
Leftitshort said:
You seemed to favour SR’s supposition, a drum that’s been banged from the beginning, rather than the reality of LP’s. People are still working, inside everywhere. This is where transmission occurs.
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Has there been a sudden increase of people forced to stop working from home. If you suggest this then show some evidence rather than just disagreeing. Also, you say that transmission occurs where people are still working inside, everywhere. Really! Maybe you can also show some evidence for this supposition, or is it just your gut reaction, I think it probably is. If you look at the diagram posted by Ethan it shows a continuem of where infections have occured and schools and social meetings score high on the list, working safely is way down it.
 
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D-S said:
This is a clip from a tweet by COVID Fact Check UK. The Telegraph seem to be running the story.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1362520450748801027
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Brilliant news, does make me feel more comfortable having had it.. not only shouldn't I did from covid but their is less chance of infecting my family . Considering I have been at work full time since the pandamic and we have had a few outbreaks (which I been lucky to avoid getting) does make me feel slightly Safer
 
SocketRocket said:
Has there been a sudden increase of people forced to stop working from home. If you suggest this then show some evidence rather than just disagreeing. Also, you say that transmission occurs where people are still working inside, everywhere. Really! Maybe you can also show some evidence for this supposition, or is it just your gut reaction, I think it probably is. If you look at the diagram posted by Ethan it shows a continuem of where infections have occured and schools and social meetings score high on the list, working safely is way down it.
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It’s dated Nov 20. It’s more relevant to lockdown 1. If you’re talking about now; many more work places are open requiring people to travel & mix in the workplace. They don’t chose this. The definition of ‘essential’ has been expanded so no furlough, no working from home. I speak from direct experience! This is far more prevalent than people meeting socially imo.
 
Leftitshort said:
It’s dated Nov 20. It’s more relevant to lockdown 1. If you’re talking about now; many more work places are open requiring people to travel & mix in the workplace. They don’t chose this. The definition of ‘essential’ has been expanded so no furlough, no working from home. I speak from direct experience! This is far more prevalent than people meeting socially imo.
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Part of my afternoon dog walk takes me past the main road heading into our town which is purely commuter belt. I tend to pass that bit around 5pm. I have noticed a big increase in traffic this week compared to a month ago. It's not the nose to tail crawl you normally see outside lockdown, but there are far more cars than there has been, and the vast majority will be people heading home from work.

This is purely a personal observation, but there does appear to be a steady drift back to the workplace.
 
rudebhoy said:
Part of my afternoon dog walk takes me past the main road heading into our town which is purely commuter belt. I tend to pass that bit around 5pm. I have noticed a big increase in traffic this week compared to a month ago. It's not the nose to tail crawl you normally see outside lockdown, but there are far more cars than there has been, and the vast majority will be people heading home from work.

This is purely a personal observation, but there does appear to be a steady drift back to the workplace.
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Example being, one of our sites, it was closed for 2 months in lockdown 1. Open ever since. Normally approx 60 people work there. Some are furloughed, but approx 40 in at the moment. In jan at one stage they had 9 confirmed infections & 16 isolating. These people have no option to WFH.
 
Weren’t construction sites closed for a period in Lockdown 1? Also dentists were closed or certainly emergency only and we have the, vital for February, garden centres open this time too.
 
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