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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

D-S said:
I’m not suggesting that we shouldn’t try to explain and educate, the authorities are already trying hard do so, but to knowingly aid the spread of a deadly disease and being able to act with impunity seems in contrast to what the rest of the population have been doing in the past 11 months. As we are currently all spreaders our liberties have been, correctly, curtailed for the greater good I see no reason why those who continue to deliberately spread a deadly disease should be allowed to do so providing they have been given the education.
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The problems highlighted by the media seems to mostly include elderly members of ethnic minority groups and some immigrants, it will be interesting to see if the younger age group in these areas have similar misgivings.
 
Old Skier said:
It’s a conundrum, do you stop all travel until everyone catches up or do you, for the sake of the tourist industry, open it up to those who had the jab. Not a decision I’d like to make.

As an aside, in N Devon are one of the lowest areas for COVID in the UK. The tourist industry here are begging for the return of tourists where as there are some locals dead against it. Should the travel ban include the whole of UK as well.
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It’s the same as lockdown for millions is purely to protect the vunerable- there is no way they would allow the people with vaccine to be able to have a holiday whilst others havent purely because they haven’t been offered the vaccine - that happens and the reaction wouldn’t be pretty
 
D-S said:
As being vaccinated prevents the spread of the disease, choosing not to be vaccinated therefore aids or increases the spread of the disease. Though those who choose not to be vaccinated should be allowed healthcare they should in my opinion be prevented from spreading the disease.
In some way this is the same as smoking, we give smokers the healthcare but we do restrict their activity as there is deemed to be a danger from second hand smoke. The refuseniks will by definition be spreaders so perhaps they should have to wear medical grade masks and not be allowed to be indoors in public places in close proximity to others.
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You can still spread it when vaccinated tho? You just don't get as ill as you could get without it

Basically an NHS saving vaccine
 
At the current rate I believe all over 18s will have been offered the vaccine by end June, early July - we could then offer passports in time for summer holidays.
It isn’t even the middle of Feb yet but all the over 65s in our roll up WhatsApp group will have had the jab by the end of this week.
 
pauljames87 said:
You can still spread it when vaccinated tho? You just don't get as ill as you could get without it

Basically an NHS saving vaccine
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It’s my understanding that from initial results in Israel that the vaccinated also reduce the spread, however I don’t have the article I rad to hand.
 
D-S said:
At the current rate I believe all over 18s will have been offered the vaccine by end June, early July - we could then offer passports in time for summer holidays.
It isn’t even the middle of Feb yet but all the over 65s in our roll up WhatsApp group will have had the jab by the end of this week.
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We might get through our 70+ by the mid Feb so we could be nearly a month behind your area.
 
D-S said:
At the current rate I believe all over 18s will have been offered the vaccine by end June, early July - we could then offer passports in time for summer holidays.
It isn’t even the middle of Feb yet but all the over 65s in our roll up WhatsApp group will have had the jab by the end of this week.
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One jab, maybe, not 2. There are a lot more people in some of the middle age groups, and JCVI have not made it clear if they even intend to recommend vaccs for all adults yet.
 
At current rate 15.7m will receive first dose by 15/2 that’s 30% of the population over 18. At current rate of 434k per day it’ll take 85 days for first dose into the remaining 70% Supply increases from April, additional Pfizer and Moderna, should up this rate as second doses start to be administered, this acceleration will be key to timing of total vaccinatio.
 
D-S said:
At current rate 15.7m will receive first dose by 15/2 that’s 30% of the population over 18. At current rate of 434k per day it’ll take 85 days for first dose into the remaining 70% Supply increases from April, additional Pfizer and Moderna, should up this rate as second doses start to be administered, this acceleration will be key to timing of total vaccinatio.
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Do we have sufficient staff to match the increase? I hope so, but I'm not sure that an increase on nearly half a million jabs a day is achievable. I sincerely hope I'm wrong, but I'm not sure we can up it.
 
Slime said:
According to the BBC we shouldn't book holidays abroad or at home because ''Summer has been put on hold''.
Who makes this hysterical crap up?
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I try and take a more positive view... Any other year our screens/media would be full of 'hysterical' (non)travellers whingeing about 'our' airports and train lines inability to cope with a few mm's of snow :(....
 
AmandaJR said:
I think "guests" on the BBC are turning - loving Matt Hancock saying headline writers are the only ones finding holiday advice difficult to understand and that most are smarter than that (y)(y)
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Charlie doesnt understand the difference between "booking a holiday months ago" and "going on holiday", I did the same " months ago" for July as there is a particular place I want to go and the holiday firm offered a good protected deal. Doesnt mean I'll go.
 
My gf has just been told in an email from the board of directors at her work (a fairly big and well known clothing brand) that the scheduled opening of the stores in the UK is planned for late May. If that is simply the company itself who's planning for that or if that is based on an inside tip from government I do not know.

One of the guys at our club who's high up in one of the biggest accounting firms in the world have always had the exact info on lockdown measures before it's been public, so assuming that this sort of info is going out to companies, whether that is leaked or official "classified" info, who knows?
 
Blue in Munich said:
Do we have sufficient staff to match the increase? I hope so, but I'm not sure that an increase on nearly half a million jabs a day is achievable. I sincerely hope I'm wrong, but I'm not sure we can up it.
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Staff won't be a rate-limiting step for a while. Loads of volunteers have come forward, some retired and non-clinical doctors, retired nurses, paramedics and non-healthcare people trained up too vaccinate (which is not very difficult).
 
Old Skier said:
Charlie doesnt understand the difference between "booking a holiday months ago" and "going on holiday", I did the same " months ago" for July as there is a particular place I want to go and the holiday firm offered a good protected deal. Doesnt mean I'll go.
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We have had centre parcs booked since last year when it was pushed back because of the pandemic..

Just like you doesn't mean we will go.. if no good we will move to next year
 
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