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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

AmandaJR said:
I think "guests" on the BBC are turning - loving Matt Hancock saying headline writers are the only ones finding holiday advice difficult to understand and that most are smarter than that (y)(y)
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Not sure how the Beeb can be held responsible or be in any way connected with headlines, in the printed media, as a result of Grant Shapp's message from yesterday...
 
Old Skier said:
It’s a conundrum, do you stop all travel until everyone catches up or do you, for the sake of the tourist industry, open it up to those who had the jab. Not a decision I’d like to make.
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I can imagine that the younger people would, rightly, be up in arms if the older generations were suddenly able to go on holiday whilst they were told that they'd ben confined to the UK for any holiday. As an age group that has been disproportionately affected by the restrictions placed upon them for a virus that carries very little risk but to protect those that are at risk, to then be told that they would face even more restrictions, they'd be furious.

For me, it should be a level playing field, leisure travel allowed once all have been vaccinated. If you choose not to have the vaccine you cannot travel.
 
pauljames87 said:
We have had centre parcs booked since last year when it was pushed back because of the pandemic..

Just like you doesn't mean we will go.. if no good we will move to next year
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We are booking Cornwall today, we've been meaning to for a while however finances haven't allowed. It's not until mid August so fairly confident we'll be going, if not then we'll reschedule but I need something to look forward to!!
 
road2ruin said:
I can imagine that the younger people would, rightly, be up in arms if the older generations were suddenly able to go on holiday whilst they were told that they'd ben confined to the UK for any holiday. As an age group that has been disproportionately affected by the restrictions placed upon them for a virus that carries very little risk but to protect those that are at risk, to then be told that they would face even more restrictions, they'd be furious.

For me, it should be a level playing field, leisure travel allowed once all have been vaccinated. If you choose not to have the vaccine you cannot travel.
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This I agree with if for no other reason than social harmony. People are currently willing to wait patiently for their jab. Just imagine how the toilet roll, pasta hoarders and panic buyers would react if someone announced that having the vaccine meant increased levels of freedom or 2 weeks on the Costa Del Sol whilst everyone else stayed in full lockdown. I can actually see riots outside vaccine centers.
 
Old Skier said:
Or we could put armbands on them with some kind of unclean badge on it. Perhaps a bit more time, understanding and explanation might be a better approach.
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C,mon, how much time understanding? and explanation is needed?
That is procrastination.
Their refusals, because of the resulting increased instances of spread of the disease, are
akin to refusing to follow the lockdown rules. The result is the same. Unnecessary spread of a deadly disease.
So why don't you condemn it , as I believe you would condemn refusal to obey lockdown rules.?
How long did it take you to understand what is involved.
The anti vaxxers know the score. They are making conscious decisions.
 
GB72 said:
This I agree with if for no other reason than social harmony. People are currently willing to wait patiently for their jab. Just imagine how the toilet roll, pasta hoarders and panic buyers would react if someone announced that having the vaccine meant increased levels of freedom or 2 weeks on the Costa Del Sol whilst everyone else stayed in full lockdown. I can actually see riots outside vaccine centers.
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I think it would also lead down a slightly dangerous route of 'Vaccine for Cash'. A black market for jabs to get your vaccine passport to enable you to travel.
 
Ethan said:
Staff won't be a rate-limiting step for a while. Loads of volunteers have come forward, some retired and non-clinical doctors, retired nurses, paramedics and non-healthcare people trained up too vaccinate (which is not very difficult).
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The vaccination part may not be difficult - but the 'governance' and 'due diligence' training that has to be taken and 'passed' before an individual can give a vaccination is quite burdensome...and might put some off. Hopefully not to the detriment of delivering first jag to plan as second jag recipients come in - but we shouldn't assume that the process to be followed for onboarding someone to given vaccinations is quick and easy; it's a bit of a pain.
 
You can't say some can go abroad and some cant, either we all go or nobody goes.
However, what you can say is those returning to the UK who haven't had the vaccine and have been offered it will have to quarantine in a secure hotel for 2 weeks at their own expense. That might get the antivaxers attention.
Another idea might be if someone refuses the vaccine then later changes their mind, they will have to pay for it...say £250 each dose.
 
Old Skier said:
Charlie doesnt understand the difference between "booking a holiday months ago" and "going on holiday", I did the same " months ago" for July as there is a particular place I want to go and the holiday firm offered a good protected deal. Doesnt mean I'll go.
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Maybe Hancock doesn’t understand why Grant Shapps only stated yesterday it was “too soon to book a domestic holiday”

But hey, easier to deflect on to headline writers than question a colleague.
 
Robster59 said:
I genuinely think I'm turning into Victor Meldrew. I'm growing less patient and tolerant with the stupid, ignorant, I'll informed and inconsiderate people who seem to becoming more prevalent these days.
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This is me as well , found myself getting really wound up in the supermarket yesterday for the smallest of thing not usual for me at all used to be a calm,quite laid back
but find myself getting annoyed at the drop of a hat lately with all the nuptys roaming around without a thought for others
 
ColchesterFC said:
What if Spain says that people can travel there only if they've had the vaccine? Would you expect our government to ban everyone from going on holiday to Spain until everyone has had the vaccination?
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Honestly, yes. One of the purposes of lockdown, which has kept us at home on and off for a year, has been to protect the more at risk people who have, quite rightly, been the first to get the vaccine. If the response was then 'I'm alright Jack, I had my vaccine so I am off to the Costas, thanks for protecting me now I am off to have some fun whilst you are stuck indoors' I would be seriously hacked off. In my mind, if vaccination is a requirement then nobody travels abroad on holiday until everyone has been offered the jab.

You suddenly give extra freedoms to those who lockdown was meant to protect and compliance with lockdown will end.
 
Slime said:
According to the BBC we shouldn't book holidays abroad or at home because ''Summer has been put on hold''.
Who makes this hysterical crap up?
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Think it might be just reacting to current tabloid journalism fashion ... they are under a lot of pressure currently with their peers calling them “woke” which seems to have now become an insult.
ITN’s Tom Bradbury is quite amusing with a little smirk after such comments etc ..
But let’s be honest here, why would you go anywhere that hasn’t got the virus under control? Also why should you be let back in without doing 2 weeks isolation? There is still a risk so sure go on holiday but don’t risk everyone else and accept the penalties of doing so.
I am content to stay at home but if some person gets the golf courses shut down because they wanted a holiday in a virus epicentre then I cannot imagine I would have much sympathy.
 
GB72 said:
Honestly, yes. One of the purposes of lockdown, which has kept us at home on and off for a year, has been to protect the more at risk people who have, quite rightly, been the first to get the vaccine. If the response was then 'I'm alright Jack, I had my vaccine so I am off to the Costas, thanks for protecting me now I am off to have some fun whilst you are stuck indoors' I would be seriously hacked off. In my mind, if vaccination is a requirement then nobody travels abroad on holiday until everyone has been offered the jab.

You suddenly give extra freedoms to those who lockdown was meant to protect and compliance with lockdown will end.
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Totally agree with you! Im 27, I wont be vaccinated for months and months. Ive worked every day since lockdown 1 (in a school). In my opinion, I deserve the option for a holiday whenever everyone else does!
 
GB72 said:
Honestly, yes. One of the purposes of lockdown, which has kept us at home on and off for a year, has been to protect the more at risk people who have, quite rightly, been the first to get the vaccine. If the response was then 'I'm alright Jack, I had my vaccine so I am off to the Costas, thanks for protecting me now I am off to have some fun whilst you are stuck indoors' I would be seriously hacked off. In my mind, if vaccination is a requirement then nobody travels abroad on holiday until everyone has been offered the jab.

You suddenly give extra freedoms to those who lockdown was meant to protect and compliance with lockdown will end.
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I agree with that. However, there are a number of younger people who have been saying we should isolate the old and vunrable and let the rest get on with life, why would they not accept the same when the boot is on the other foot.
 
Bdill93 said:
Totally agree with you! Im 27, I wont be vaccinated for months and months. Ive worked every day since lockdown 1 (in a school). In my opinion, I deserve the option for a holiday whenever everyone else does!
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Every day......inc weekends ?
Problem is there are many many other essential workers from refuse collectors to tax collectors who will feel equally entitled.
 
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