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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

backwoodsman said:
In which case, same bloke I heard. Who wasnt really a spokesman for anyone other than the company he works for. And who is developing an IT system/solution that could be used to prove you've had the jab. He was adamant it wasn't "a passport" but was more of a "certificate". (But to me that's only semantics). Main point was that although his company is developing a system, it was up to others (government presumably?) as to whether such a system needed to be implemented or not.
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It’s wasn’t he. I cannot say who he is spokesman for. Indeed I suspect were I to give a clue that too would find me in hot water ?
 
Tashyboy said:
Re having a vaccine passport, why not. Esp if you want to travel. I have heard that the passports could be easily faked. If we don’t know what they look like how can we fake them. Does it actually have to be a piece of paper. If it’s travel, put it on a data base. Those that don’t want the vaccine, I am ok with that, that’s there choice, reap what you sow. But if you falsify a vaccine passport to say you have had it when you have not, throw the book and the library at them.
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As soon as somebody has one, we know what it looks like & it becomes forgeable. A database is hackable. As long as there is more money in the criminal side of it than the State is prepared to pay it will never be secure. Sorry, but that is a sad fact of life.
 
Ethan said:
Pregnancy is a precaution, in other words the prescribing advice states that a personal assessment should be made about how important it is to vaccinate versus possible risks for each individual. There is no evidence that there is any specific risk, but the truth is we don't know. Breast feeding is likely to be safer, but again, not 100% proven.
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C'mon Ethan it now must be called "chest feeding'- not that I know of any males who could stand in!
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
It’s wasn’t he. I cannot say who he is spokesman for. Indeed I suspect were I to give a clue that too would find me in hot water ?
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Ok. That bit must have been on before my radio came on.

On a different general note, I dont understand why there seems to be such antipathy against a "vaccine passport" or whatever it might be called. After all, plenty of countries around the world already require proof of vaccination for various diseases efore they let you in. Dont see that this is all that different. (But ok, an intra-national thing might be more diversive).
 
AmandaJR said:
Well I did get some "nice" callouses but they've all gone! As it turns out though it's not too bad and I can play as long as I want to without too much discomfort. Not that I play for long!!

I was going through an online lessons course and practicing chord changes a lot so maybe got a bit stuck/bored. At the moment I'm just learning an easy song a week and trying to nail it. So currently it's Bob Marley's Three Little Birds and today managed to play along (and "sing") to the original which I was quite chuffed with :)
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Don't worry, bout a thing :ROFLMAO:
 
Hobbit said:
Greece has agreed a vaccine passport travel deal with Israel. The EU mooted a vaccine passport last year, and many EU member states are pushing for it, initially suggested to go live from Jan 2022. The EU also asked member states to collate names of those who refuse the jab.

As has been said, it may come to 'no jab, no travel.'
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In a part of Europe that allows free movement with no border controls how will they stop it.
 
I wonder how the under 50’s will react when all us old farts can get a vaccine passport and go on holiday and they are barred. On the other hand, if we have all had jabs in the country will we be allowed to a country who are still way behind in their vaccination program.
 
As being vaccinated prevents the spread of the disease, choosing not to be vaccinated therefore aids or increases the spread of the disease. Though those who choose not to be vaccinated should be allowed healthcare they should in my opinion be prevented from spreading the disease.
In some way this is the same as smoking, we give smokers the healthcare but we do restrict their activity as there is deemed to be a danger from second hand smoke. The refuseniks will by definition be spreaders so perhaps they should have to wear medical grade masks and not be allowed to be indoors in public places in close proximity to others.
 
D-S said:
As being vaccinated prevents the spread of the disease, choosing not to be vaccinated therefore aids or increases the spread of the disease. Though those who choose not to be vaccinated should be allowed healthcare they should in my opinion be prevented from spreading the disease.
In some way this is the same as smoking, we give smokers the healthcare but we do restrict their activity as there is deemed to be a danger from second hand smoke. The refuseniks will by definition be spreaders so perhaps they should have to wear medical grade masks and not be allowed to be indoors in public places in close proximity to others.
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Or we could put armbands on them with some kind of unclean badge on it. Perhaps a bit more time, understanding and explanation might be a better approach.
 
Hobbit said:
Greece has agreed a vaccine passport travel deal with Israel. The EU mooted a vaccine passport last year, and many EU member states are pushing for it, initially suggested to go live from Jan 2022. The EU also asked member states to collate names of those who refuse the jab.

As has been said, it may come to 'no jab, no travel.'
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They will need to figure out what to do with kids. None of the vaccines are approved for kids in the UK or Europe, so cannot really be any expectation for them to have passports. Very few adults can't have the vaccine, really only those who are allergic to the specific ingredients of the vaccines or are pregnant/breastfeeding.
 
Old Skier said:
Or we could put armbands on them with some kind of unclean badge on it. Perhaps a bit more time, understanding and explanation might be a better approach.
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I’m not suggesting that we shouldn’t try to explain and educate, the authorities are already trying hard do so, but to knowingly aid the spread of a deadly disease and being able to act with impunity seems in contrast to what the rest of the population have been doing in the past 11 months. As we are currently all spreaders our liberties have been, correctly, curtailed for the greater good I see no reason why those who continue to deliberately spread a deadly disease should be allowed to do so providing they have been given the education.
 
I think morally you can't have the saga people going on holidays while young people want to be vaccinated but still waiting for their turn.
Plus the people that can't yet like kids, pregnant women and possibly people with some health condition.
 
larmen said:
I think morally you can't have the saga people going on holidays while young people want to be vaccinated but still waiting for their turn.
Plus the people that can't yet like kids, pregnant women and possibly people with some health condition.
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It’s a conundrum, do you stop all travel until everyone catches up or do you, for the sake of the tourist industry, open it up to those who had the jab. Not a decision I’d like to make.

As an aside, in N Devon are one of the lowest areas for COVID in the UK. The tourist industry here are begging for the return of tourists where as there are some locals dead against it. Should the travel ban include the whole of UK as well.
 
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