Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

[Ethan]

Not trying to dispute this, but have you actual evidence that Pubs are one of the main reasons for recent infection rates. Almost everyone I know that has had COVID is quite adamant that the root cause has been either work or school.

It is quite difficult to pin down the place of exposure unless this is an obvious case from whom it seems reasonable to assume you got it. When tracers look back at where you have been, they tend to default to the places you have spent most time even though those are not necessarily the places where the exposure was greatest.

 

[Swinglowandslow]

Not trying to dispute this, but have you actual evidence that Pubs are one of the main reasons for recent infection rates. Almost everyone I know that has had COVID is quite adamant that the root cause has been either work or school.

No, I don't have evidence, if you mean the sort when politicians and lawyers say, " there is no evidence that.....", because in the absolute terms they are
wanting ,it would be necessary to show that the virus could not have been contracted in any other place.
And that is what they know cannot be done.
But, being reasonable, if you accept that aerosol spread is a prime method of contracting the virus, then pubs ,being venues of ( large) indoor gathering with much relaxed and uninhibited conversation, must be places where the virus will be spread.
To deny that is denying an inconvenient truth.

And I didn't say only pubs, I did say etc?

 

[Tashyboy]

No, I don't have evidence, if you mean the sort when politicians and lawyers say, " there is no evidence that.....", because in the absolute terms they are
wanting ,it would be necessary to show that the virus could not have been contracted in any other place.
And that is what they know cannot be done.
But, being reasonable, if you accept that aerosol spread is a prime method of contracting the virus, then pubs ,being venues of ( large) indoor gathering with much relaxed and uninhibited conversation, must be places where the virus will be spread.
To deny that is denying an inconvenient truth.

And I didn't say only pubs, I did say etc?

It’s not just that pubs help spread, to what extent argue amongst yourselves. But it’s a similar argument to those that say this Covid is not that bad in terms of deaths compared to normal death years. The Covid deaths are what they because of the measures taken. If it was a free for all re no tiers or national lockdown and all the other measures taken. How many deaths would there be then. Its the same with the pubs if they were open. How bad would it be then.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Not trying to dispute this, but have you actual evidence that Pubs are one of the main reasons for recent infection rates. Almost everyone I know that has had COVID is quite adamant that the root cause has been either work or school.

It's perception. There was a theatre owner on the news saying her patrons feel safe in their theatres .. was the most stupid comment I've ever heard. You can't see covid. You don't know if it's in the air or not. If people "feel" safe doesn't mean it is at all

I feel safe at work but could easily get it from work.

People see schools as a mixing pot and just see them as unsafe .. it's a feeling

 

[Billysboots]

One thing this pandemic has done has just how stupid and utterly selfish a big percentage of the human race is. Its really quite depressing.

In many ways I have found that more depressing than the virus itself. I’ve said it many times, we really have seen the best and worst in people these last few months. And the latter makes my heart sink.

 

[bluewolf]

No, I don't have evidence, if you mean the sort when politicians and lawyers say, " there is no evidence that.....", because in the absolute terms they are
wanting ,it would be necessary to show that the virus could not have been contracted in any other place.
And that is what they know cannot be done.
But, being reasonable, if you accept that aerosol spread is a prime method of contracting the virus, then pubs ,being venues of ( large) indoor gathering with much relaxed and uninhibited conversation, must be places where the virus will be spread.
To deny that is denying an inconvenient truth.

And I didn't say only pubs, I did say etc?

As I said, I wasn’t disputing that pubs are a contributor to the spread. I also didn’t once think that you said they were the only place. However, I do think it’s unfortunate that pubs are quite often singled out as main contributors when there’s not really anything other than opinion to back this up. ?

 

[Tashyboy]

Just seen some photos re the Christmas market in Nottingham. It is shocking. Folk look like cattle crammed together. That’s four weeks wasted. I know people have been idiots but how the authority’s have allowed this is beyond me.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Just seen some photos re the Christmas market in Nottingham. It is shocking. Folk look like cattle crammed together. That’s four weeks wasted. I know people have been idiots but how the authority’s have allowed this is beyond me.

Photo popped up on FB of friends of mine taking their kids to see Santa.. all done social distancing super imposed that he was nearby

Then I saw the pic on the sleigh .. all the kids .. that's 4 families kids!! Over 6 for one... Mental

 

[HomerJSimpson]

HID went to a large local garden centre. Wanted to get some gift vouchers for the in-laws. Queued for 45 minutes to get in and park (more patience than I'd have had). Inside it was apparently mayhem, especially around the Christmas decorations. No social distancing and a total free for all. People are just lazy and apathetic to covid and the risk now. She got in, got to customer services and got out. Won't be going back until after Covid

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

HID went to a large local garden centre. Wanted to get some gift vouchers for the in-laws. Queued for 45 minutes to get in and park (more patience than I'd have had). Inside it was apparently mayhem, especially around the Christmas decorations. No social distancing and a total free for all. People are just lazy and apathetic to covid and the risk now. She got in, got to customer services and got out. Won't be going back until after Covid

We had a similar experience at a big one in B*g***t a few weeks ago - with the christmas stuff just inside the entrance, loads of folk stopping and browsing, and everyone else squeezing past each other - and we decided we just weren’t going to go back. I suspect today that it would have been the same there as what you described for where your other half went.

 

[Reemul]

Yeah I popped to the Range last night for something and the upstairs which was Xmas stuff only was absolutely rammed, i took one look and left. I do feel we need to get out and about and help the economy but in some places it is madness.

I also went in to town at 9am yesterday spent an hour getting what I needed, it was wet, windy and quiet. Anything else I could not get I ordered from Amazon.

We do need to spread out through the day rather than all going in 11am - 3pm and support our local towns.

I am also going out for a meal tonight , it's my sons 14th birthday today. Be interesting to see how it goes as well

 

[Fade and Die]

Was impressed how straightforward it was to get a COVID test for me and my two lads. Fill details in on the gov website, got offered a list of appointments same day. Clicked on one. Turned up on time, 3 tests done and 24 hrs later got the results. (All negative thank dog) all pretty seamless. ?

 

[patricks148]

i 'm sure it was a mistake or not but had a text from the doctors on Friday saying as i was in the over 55 group, i could ring up and make an appointment for my anti Covid vacine next week???

had one last week similar for them for a flu jab.

 

[GB72]

Really impressed at the shops near me. Went to a retail park, sensible queuing, not too many in shops, masks everywhere, exactly as it should be.

 

[Tashyboy]

Well well well, Nottingham has shut down its market due to “ unprecedented footfall”. The city had one of the highest Covid counts in the country a couple of months ago. They get it down then have a Christmas market. Planks.

 

[GB72]

Well well well, Nottingham has shut down its market due to “ unprecedented footfall”. The city had one of the highest Covid counts in the country a couple of months ago. They get it down then have a Christmas market. Planks.

It was inevitable but then again you give anyone in tier 3 something different to do and people will flock to it.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Worn a mask when shopping since March, can put my hand on my heart and state I believe me and my family have done what the Government has asked and more.

Done my exercise, running and golf as per the rules and apart from the odd trip to the doctors, Flu jab etc and then sadly an hour a day to the hospice in the last 2 weeks of the m-in-laws life I tonight will complete the 9 days of isolation as requested by the App.

It really, really has been dificult, no way did I think last saturday that 9 days would be an issue, such a difference of not being able to just go for a run or a walk or whatever, just shows how that little bit of freedom we’ve been allowed can mske a difference.

Got my running kit laid out ready for the morning and I’m off out, rain, hail or shine.

 

[Tashyboy]

Worn a mask when shopping since March, can put my hand on my heart and state I believe me and my family have done what the Government has asked and more.

Done my exercise, running and golf as per the rules and apart from the odd trip to the doctors, Flu jab etc and then sadly an hour a day to the hospice in the last 2 weeks of the m-in-laws life I tonight will complete the 9 days of isolation as requested by the App.

It really, really has been dificult, no way did I think last saturday that 9 days would be an issue, such a difference of not being able to just go for a run or a walk or whatever, just shows how that little bit of freedom we’ve been allowed can mske a difference.

Got my running kit laid out ready for the morning and I’m off out, rain, hail or shine.

Gotta agree with those 9 days bit. Ave said to Missis T that if we lived in an apartment I would be in a sanitorium now.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

HID went into town for the in-laws. Shops not open until 11.00 and by 10.35 when she arrived places like the Range were snaking around the car park and Primark was a massive queue. In fact most shops had a long queue so you can imagine the scrum and lack of distancing once the doors open. Fortunately she only needed to go to a jeweller so missed all the fun and games

 

[larmen]

HID went to a large local garden centre. Wanted to get some gift vouchers for the in-laws. Queued for 45 minutes to get in and park (more patience than I'd have had). Inside it was apparently mayhem, especially around the Christmas decorations. No social distancing and a total free for all. People are just lazy and apathetic to covid and the risk now. She got in, got to customer services and got out. Won't be going back until after Covid

We went to squires in Sunbury on Saturday and it was a delight. Never have been more relaxed to buy a tree and some decoration as well as some gardening bits on top.

The tree thing was so organised, I hope they do it like that every year from now on. Pick a tree, get a number, pay and they put it in your car at the other exit. No 20 families pushing large trolleys through tiny paths like it usually is.