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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Silly bits aside, I have a serious question.

A few weeks ago a handful of people where reported as reinfected, but nothing really came out of it since.
Was that just false data, or isn’t that monitored anymore? Is reinfection a non-issue?
 
Silly bits aside, I have a serious question.

A few weeks ago a handful of people where reported as reinfected, but nothing really came out of it since.
Was that just false data, or isn’t that monitored anymore? Is reinfection a non-issue?
The cases were genuine and proven but the rate at which it happens is thought to be very low. If reinfection is to become a more common problem it is likely to be a bit later if immunity wanes significantly.
 
I’m more than a bit confused how uk has managed to rack up way over half a million positive covid tests in a month. That’s an incredible number, if I wanted to go herd immunity I’d be happy with half a million a month catching it! (plus all the untested/asymptomatic)

There’s still just the two primary ways to get it right?
Touch something with the virus on it then shove your fingers in one of the holes in your face
Come into contact with an airborne droplet that enters through one of the holes in your face

And masks, hand sanitizer, gloves, sunglasses, soap & water, keeping distanced, staying at home etc all create barriers & reduce the chances of the above happening… but more than half a million times in just a month those safeguards have failed, what the hell has happened?
 
what the hell has happened?
Even with the best of practices we can only reduce the risk, it also needs everyone to do their part as it can just take the one person to infect lots who are following the rules. Only once do you need to forget or drop your guard and you can be susceptible to that one persons lack of.

Its also an overall risk, staying home and zero contact? Go food shopping and pick up medication? See people in the park? Every action changes the overall risk profile slightly, it isn’t yes/no as someone with a 1% risk can get it and someone with a 99% risk could not.

In the end we are all moving about, interacting, touching, breathing etc, it is just less are coming closer to others but with schools and shops open plus workplaces etc then transfer WILL happen.
 
And masks, hand sanitizer, gloves, sunglasses, soap & water, keeping distanced, staying at home etc all create barriers & reduce the chances of the above happening… but more than half a million times in just a month those safeguards have failed, what the hell has happened?
In my OPINION it is complacency. In March we washed our shopping before we put it into the kitchen, but since about end of April that stopped.
 
Even with the best of practices we can only reduce the risk, it also needs everyone to do their part as it can just take the one person to infect lots who are following the rules. Only once do you need to forget or drop your guard and you can be susceptible to that one persons lack of.

Its also an overall risk, staying home and zero contact? Go food shopping and pick up medication? See people in the park? Every action changes the overall risk profile slightly, it isn’t yes/no as someone with a 1% risk can get it and someone with a 99% risk could not.

In the end we are all moving about, interacting, touching, breathing etc, it is just less are coming closer to others but with schools and shops open plus workplaces etc then transfer WILL happen.

But there's also been over 6 months for all people to hone/adapt their behaviour to reduce the risk of transfer
 
But there's also been over 6 months for all people to hone/adapt their behaviour to reduce the risk of transfer

I agree, I feel I am personally a lot better at things now that I was when it was new. I have adapted and grown to accept and be accustomed to the new ways. I try to follow the rules as best I can but that won’t stop me getting it completely. I have had two winter colds already this year and I barely go outside or even see people beyond the school gate and once a week at the supermarket. I try to avoid people as best I can on walks etc.

There are people who clamour greatly for the old ways of pre-Covid, plus the much discussed weariness of all the rules and regulations, which lead to little and then larger slips.

We are all different, we are all individuals with a hugely varied range of social and personal situations, the rules have tried to accommodate as many as possible but this has lead to both those who try to push each rule to their extreme and find loopholes OR those who bend or even outright disregard the rules altogether.

People are trying to find that balance, between the old ways and the new, that will bring along some risk of transmission, even if all rules are followed.
 
We both caught it despite being really careful, following guidelines and hands, space, face ad finitum. We've never found out where we caught it but did feel as if we'd been careless somehow. It's not a nice feeling to feel unwell and at the same time weirdly guilty and like a leper.

Some posts above suggest others may well have thought the same about us...
 
I’m more than a bit confused how uk has managed to rack up way over half a million positive covid tests in a month. That’s an incredible number, if I wanted to go herd immunity I’d be happy with half a million a month catching it! (plus all the untested/asymptomatic)

There’s still just the two primary ways to get it right?
Touch something with the virus on it then shove your fingers in one of the holes in your face
Come into contact with an airborne droplet that enters through one of the holes in your face

And masks, hand sanitizer, gloves, sunglasses, soap & water, keeping distanced, staying at home etc all create barriers & reduce the chances of the above happening… but more than half a million times in just a month those safeguards have failed, what the hell has happened?

Because as per all the other highly densely populated areas unless you close the whole place down then the virus will be transmitted regardless of how much protection you take

We had 6 months of pubs , shops , restaurants open - even with the best protection in the world it’s going to get transmitted - just like the flu or a cold

People have adapted the way they live their life but you will never stop it being transmitted within a heavily populated area unless you shut everyone away.

We are also testing far more than ever before and maybe more than other countries
 
We both caught it despite being really careful, following guidelines and hands, space, face ad finitum. We've never found out where we caught it but did feel as if we'd been careless somehow. It's not a nice feeling to feel unwell and at the same time weirdly guilty and like a leper.

Some posts above suggest others may well have thought the same about us...

I was beyond paranoid about catching the virus and was ridiculously careful as a consequence. It didn’t stop me catching it.

All it would seem to need is to be within the same space as someone who coughs or sneezes, and if you let your guard down even slightly you run the risk of being infected.
 
I get that transfer will still happen, I get that infection will still happen and I get that there's no eradication without complete shutdown, that’s not really what I commented on

Its more than half a million positive cases in just 30 days coming seven months after everyone was told how you can catch it & how to reduce the odds of catching it… half a million!

Its the sheer number of current infections that's staggering, not the fact that its still out there as a risk
 
We still do that.

We have never done it, but we have taken other measures. Everyone is free to determine what is appropriate within the rules.

I personally didn’t consider that a significant pathway for us considering our other sources of risk. We have focussed on what is riskiest for us.
 
I get that transfer will still happen, I get that infection will still happen and I get that there's no eradication without complete shutdown, that’s not really what I commented on

Its more than half a million positive cases in just 30 days coming seven months after everyone was told how you can catch it & how to reduce the odds of catching it… half a million!

Its the sheer number of current infections that's staggering, not the fact that its still out there as a risk
Unfortunately it is the case that as me and my Mrs look around and through my families network of friends and acquaintances, we see breaking of the rules all over the place.

Why is this the case? It really baffles me. It can't be lack of understanding of what we are being asked to do - as we are talking about intelligent people, and none of them can cite money-pressures as a mitigation for their behaviour (they are all comfortably off individuals and families). I can only think that there must be insufficient (perhaps not a total lack of) trust in and respect for those telling us what we must do, and that is used to justify and validate the decisions that they make around their actions - justification of selfishness - I just can't think of any other reason.

If I really don't want to do something, and my mindset is 'self' - I will look for any justification to avoid doing it, and once I have identified that justification and it is set in my thinking then denial of the risk to myself and others of my actions becomes quite easy and it is sustainable. Perhaps the only thing that can break this mindset for an individual is something going very badly wrong.
 
I get that transfer will still happen, I get that infection will still happen and I get that there's no eradication without complete shutdown, that’s not really what I commented on

Its more than half a million positive cases in just 30 days coming seven months after everyone was told how you can catch it & how to reduce the odds of catching it… half a million!

Its the sheer number of current infections that's staggering, not the fact that its still out there as a risk

Because there has been a ramp up in testing , the cold weather has started to increase the virus transmissions . There was prob just as many cases back in March but a lack of testing at the time won’t ever give the true number.
 
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