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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

i 'm sure it was a mistake or not but had a text from the doctors on Friday saying as i was in the over 55 group, i could ring up and make an appointment for my anti Covid vacine next week???

had one last week similar for them for a flu jab.

I’m certainly surprised to hear that.
 
Somewhat randomly my parents announced that they were spending Christmas alone this year as they felt that the risk was high. I only say it’s random as they have been pretty relaxed throughout the whole thing and when the initial lockdown ended we stayed at theirs quite a bit in the summer as they’re right on the beach so our daughter loves it there.

I think the difference is that at that point a vaccine was a possibility, something that might happen next year however now it’s a reality they have decided it’s be a bit silly to take the additional risk. I think a fair few on their estate had already made the decision so there may have been an element of peer pressure as well.

Initially we were a little put out, not because of us but because our daughter loves seeing her grandparents and we don’t have a huge family so it’d be Christmas Day for just the three of us which wouldn’t be very exciting for her. That said we respected their decision and were preparing how we would make the day as fun as possible without the family aspect.

As luck would have it two of our friends families have found their parents have done the same and also found themselves persona non grata with their folks. We’ve decided to have a friends Christmas this year, it’s actually something we have discussed in the past but it’d never be feasible as it’d cause WWIII with respective families. So on Christmas Day and Boxing Day there will be 10 of us, 6 adults and 4 children. 3 of the children are in the same school bubble so we’re all sharing a lot of the same germs etc.

Quite looking forward to it now although will be very different from our usual Christmas however that’ll be the same doe most.
 
Somewhat randomly my parents announced that they were spending Christmas alone this year as they felt that the risk was high. I only say it’s random as they have been pretty relaxed throughout the whole thing and when the initial lockdown ended we stayed at theirs quite a bit in the summer as they’re right on the beach so our daughter loves it there.

I think the difference is that at that point a vaccine was a possibility, something that might happen next year however now it’s a reality they have decided it’s be a bit silly to take the additional risk. I think a fair few on their estate had already made the decision so there may have been an element of peer pressure as well.

Initially we were a little put out, not because of us but because our daughter loves seeing her grandparents and we don’t have a huge family so it’d be Christmas Day for just the three of us which wouldn’t be very exciting for her. That said we respected their decision and were preparing how we would make the day as fun as possible without the family aspect.

As luck would have it two of our friends families have found their parents have done the same and also found themselves persona non grata with their folks. We’ve decided to have a friends Christmas this year, it’s actually something we have discussed in the past but it’d never be feasible as it’d cause WWIII with respective families. So on Christmas Day and Boxing Day there will be 10 of us, 6 adults and 4 children. 3 of the children are in the same school bubble so we’re all sharing a lot of the same germs etc.

Quite looking forward to it now although will be very different from our usual Christmas however that’ll be the same doe most.

Just had the same “stay away message” from MIL today. That’s one less 5 hour journey and trip around the M25.
 
Somewhat randomly my parents announced that they were spending Christmas alone this year as they felt that the risk was high. I only say it’s random as they have been pretty relaxed throughout the whole thing and when the initial lockdown ended we stayed at theirs quite a bit in the summer as they’re right on the beach so our daughter loves it there.

I think the difference is that at that point a vaccine was a possibility, something that might happen next year however now it’s a reality they have decided it’s be a bit silly to take the additional risk. I think a fair few on their estate had already made the decision so there may have been an element of peer pressure as well.

Initially we were a little put out, not because of us but because our daughter loves seeing her grandparents and we don’t have a huge family so it’d be Christmas Day for just the three of us which wouldn’t be very exciting for her. That said we respected their decision and were preparing how we would make the day as fun as possible without the family aspect.

As luck would have it two of our friends families have found their parents have done the same and also found themselves persona non grata with their folks. We’ve decided to have a friends Christmas this year, it’s actually something we have discussed in the past but it’d never be feasible as it’d cause WWIII with respective families. So on Christmas Day and Boxing Day there will be 10 of us, 6 adults and 4 children. 3 of the children are in the same school bubble so we’re all sharing a lot of the same germs etc.

Quite looking forward to it now although will be very different from our usual Christmas however that’ll be the same doe most.

The in-laws have already said they aren't coming to us this year. I don't have parents so it'll be HID and myself. Quite looking forward to it. No time pressures to get dinner served on time for the relatives, lie in, and we can eat and rink what and when we want. Actually looking forward to it. We probably don't spend enough quality time as a couple so this should be a lovely "us" day
 
i 'm sure it was a mistake or not but had a text from the doctors on Friday saying as i was in the over 55 group, i could ring up and make an appointment for my anti Covid vacine next week???

had one last week similar for them for a flu jab.

I think it was a mistake, over 55s won't be called up for a while, but accept the offer anyway!
 
Somewhat randomly my parents announced that they were spending Christmas alone this year as they felt that the risk was high. I only say it’s random as they have been pretty relaxed throughout the whole thing and when the initial lockdown ended we stayed at theirs quite a bit in the summer as they’re right on the beach so our daughter loves it there.

I think the difference is that at that point a vaccine was a possibility, something that might happen next year however now it’s a reality they have decided it’s be a bit silly to take the additional risk. I think a fair few on their estate had already made the decision so there may have been an element of peer pressure as well.

Initially we were a little put out, not because of us but because our daughter loves seeing her grandparents and we don’t have a huge family so it’d be Christmas Day for just the three of us which wouldn’t be very exciting for her. That said we respected their decision and were preparing how we would make the day as fun as possible without the family aspect.

As luck would have it two of our friends families have found their parents have done the same and also found themselves persona non grata with their folks. We’ve decided to have a friends Christmas this year, it’s actually something we have discussed in the past but it’d never be feasible as it’d cause WWIII with respective families. So on Christmas Day and Boxing Day there will be 10 of us, 6 adults and 4 children. 3 of the children are in the same school bubble so we’re all sharing a lot of the same germs etc.

Quite looking forward to it now although will be very different from our usual Christmas however that’ll be the same doe most.
We made the same decision, hopefully next year I'll be able to see and cuddle my Daughter, grand daughter, grand sons and all of my great grand children. Without them killing me off :eek:
 
Somewhat randomly my parents announced that they were spending Christmas alone this year as they felt that the risk was high. I only say it’s random as they have been pretty relaxed throughout the whole thing and when the initial lockdown ended we stayed at theirs quite a bit in the summer as they’re right on the beach so our daughter loves it there.

I think the difference is that at that point a vaccine was a possibility, something that might happen next year however now it’s a reality they have decided it’s be a bit silly to take the additional risk. I think a fair few on their estate had already made the decision so there may have been an element of peer pressure as well.

Initially we were a little put out, not because of us but because our daughter loves seeing her grandparents and we don’t have a huge family so it’d be Christmas Day for just the three of us which wouldn’t be very exciting for her. That said we respected their decision and were preparing how we would make the day as fun as possible without the family aspect.

As luck would have it two of our friends families have found their parents have done the same and also found themselves persona non grata with their folks. We’ve decided to have a friends Christmas this year, it’s actually something we have discussed in the past but it’d never be feasible as it’d cause WWIII with respective families. So on Christmas Day and Boxing Day there will be 10 of us, 6 adults and 4 children. 3 of the children are in the same school bubble so we’re all sharing a lot of the same germs etc.

Quite looking forward to it now although will be very different from our usual Christmas however that’ll be the same doe most.
10 of you. Jeez!
 
10 of you. Jeez!

Yep, why not? All within the rules. The children are all at school today bar the youngest who isn’t at school yet.

All the adults wfh and we’re not seeing parents or other elderly relatives so not like we’re going to spread it around. Given our kids are all in the same bubble at school we’d be likely to get it anyway through them so spending a couple of days at Christmas together is hardly OTT
 
Yep, why not? All within the rules. The children are all at school today bar the youngest who isn’t at school yet.

All the adults wfh and we’re not seeing parents or other elderly relatives so not like we’re going to spread it around. Given our kids are all in the same bubble at school we’d be likely to get it anyway through them so spending a couple of days at Christmas together is hardly OTT
The challenge with the Christmas 5 days ‘three households’ rule is that over the 5 days nobody of the three households can meet indoors with any individual other than those in the three households together on Christmas Day. That’s the challenge that we have had to address - now sorted.
 
The challenge with the Christmas 5 days ‘three households’ rule is that over the 5 days nobody of the three households can meet indoors with any individual other than those in the three households together on Christmas Day. That’s the challenge that we have had to address - now sorted.

I would have thought the challenge to be addressed is Covid .
The Christmas rules are to my mind a recipe for increased cases ( putting it mildly).
Why do people want to go as far as these Christmas rules will allow them to, when they must know the virus will spread as a result.
Baffles me.
 
I would have thought the challenge to be addressed is Covid .
The Christmas rules are to my mind a recipe for increased cases ( putting it mildly).
Why do people want to go as far as these Christmas rules will allow them to, when they must know the virus will spread as a result.
Baffles me.

Because some people need it. My wife has not seen her parents for nearly a year now, neither of use have had any social interaction outside of between ourselves and people we work with since the end of October and are facing another couple of months of the same after Xmas. Both of us are struggling a bit with this and so to be allowed some social interaction for even a few days is really important to us at the moment.
 
I think the, almost, inevitable Xmas spike is a necessary evil for the sake of an awful lot of people's mental health.
It's probably the most social time of the year and a lot of people haven't been able to do any for a long time.
Yes, it's going to cause a spike
But this time I think, as a nation, we have to suck it up and hope people don't go overboard
 
I think the, almost, inevitable Xmas spike is a necessary evil for the sake of an awful lot of people's mental health.
It's probably the most social time of the year and a lot of people haven't been able to do any for a long time.
Yes, it's going to cause a spike
But this time I think, as a nation, we have to suck it up and hope people don't go overboard
Well it's OK to say that - but I fear the Nottingham example suggests that people will indeed be going overboard...

On 'the challenge' - the challenge for us all on an ongoing basis is obviously living with Covid.

But the challenge for many over the Christmas 5-days will be how they can have their cake and eat it over that period, and when they realise that within the rules they can't - then many will go into denial over reality and the rules, and throw themselves overboard believing that they are exceptional swimmers and drowning doesn't come to such as them.
 
Is it just me who watches the news and sometimes gets that feeling it's a disaster movie playing out that I've seen before? This morning with talk about the vaccine being given tomorrow and the light at the end of the tunnel gave me that sensation again.
 
I think the, almost, inevitable Xmas spike is a necessary evil for the sake of an awful lot of people's mental health.
It's probably the most social time of the year and a lot of people haven't been able to do any for a long time.
Yes, it's going to cause a spike
But this time I think, as a nation, we have to suck it up and hope people don't go overboard

That doesn't sound too bad as written. Sounds worse if you say people going to get sick, end up in ICU or die.
 
That doesn't sound too bad as written. Sounds worse if you say people going to get sick, end up in ICU or die.

And when their families are getting sick or dieing they will blame someone else for allowing it.

We've got family who are planning on ignoring the rules. They have even got upset with us because we've told them we won't be coming anywhere nere this year.
They all live in a T3 area which has been in local lockdown for a long time whareas we are T2. Last year one of them came to a family do at Christmas with Flu and spread it to a few of us.

I'm more than happy for it to be just me, HID the two kids and the dog.
 
i 'm sure it was a mistake or not but had a text from the doctors on Friday saying as i was in the over 55 group, i could ring up and make an appointment for my anti Covid vaccine next week???

had one last week similar for them for a flu jab.

That will be for the 'transponder' vaccine - your selection is probably due to your activities rather than age
My understanding is Bill Gates et al are seeking to keep closer tabs on some of the more socially disruptive elements of the forum
You're probably an ideal conduit - they will probably be key-logging your warnings etc
 
Would always be careful of airborne transmission inside that happens quite quickly(well under 15 minutes....) and over a distance, quite an interesting write up here of one such case(plenty more available) :-

:: JKMS :: Journal of Korean Medical Science


to quote but see link abovejkms-35-e415-g003-l.jpg

The 39 environment samples for SARS-CoV-2 were all negative by rRT-PCR. The results of genome sequencing of the three patients were presented as all three cases' genomic types were GH type and identical for each other (data not shown).
 
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