Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

[chellie]

Equally, just because rules allow it does it make it a good idea? The govt are passing responsibility over to people to an extent now, certainly over Christmas itself. How people treat that responsibility is up to them. I'm okay with that as long as social media is not then filled with people expressing horror at having caught the virus after taking unnecessary risks.

You know that's going to happen don't you. The same as did over the summer when people drive for hours to a beach then complained it was busy. I'm going to watch/read even less news than I do now as it infuriates me so much and isn't good for my mental health.read

So many people are just picking and choosing what they want to do and sod everyone else.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I find the process rather unsatisfactory. OK, even if your phone did detect proximity to someone who later tests positive, it has no idea whether you were wearing masks, facing one another or facing away, whether it was a bank teller behind glass from you, in a pokey poorly ventilated space or a well ventilated one. More information is needed to really judge the situation.

That’s exactly it, probably 90% of any other week I would probably forget something I’d done or were I’d been, but last Sunday/Monday I am 100% positive on my movements and who I interacted with and it was 1 person, a Nurse, from the Hospice.

I also have the moral dilemma of wanting to phone the Hospice to ask if any Nurses are positive, but don’t want to cause any anguish for them or the patients or the patients families.

 

[GB72]

You know that's going to happen don't you. The same as did over the summer when people drive for hours to a beach then complained it was busy. I'm going to watch/read even less news than I do now as it infuriates me so much and isn't good for my mental health.read

So many people are just picking and choosing what they want to do and sod everyone else.

Not exactly picking and choosing but I will put my hands up and say that I will be making the most of Xmas. By then I will have had 2 months of no external social interaction and there is a strong prospect of the same for 3 months after. I will put my hands up now and say that I will be making the most of the chance to enjoy the company if friends for those few days. I do not think my mental health could suffer 5 months of just staying at home under tier 3 regulations. Not what many want to hear but I am at least being honest about my intentions and reasoning

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Cheers, to be on the safe side I intend to follow the advice, but it’s so frustrating to get so little information, probably a bit more frustrating due to what’s going on in my life at the moment.

My son lives with 4 others. His 4 flatmates got pinged a few weeks ago, he didn't. In the current situation in liverpool they are barely going out and when they do that situation of all of the others being near someone else and him not is not feasible. They should either all have been pinged or none. As it happens they all got tested, all negative, but it didn't make sense.

 

[bobmac]

To those who are planning to make unnecessary journeys/meetings/gatherings etc over the next few weeks, please spare a thought for the nurses and doctors.
This is how many of them will be spending their Christmas.



All they want for Christmas is for you to stay at home.

 

[Swinglowandslow]

Equally, just because rules allow it does it make it a good idea? The govt are passing responsibility over to people to an extent now, certainly over Christmas itself. How people treat that responsibility is up to them. I'm okay with that as long as social media is not then filled with people expressing horror at having caught the virus after taking unnecessary risks.

Exactly. At the risk of implying that I have little regard for the rules ( which is not the case), We had already determined our behaviour through to hopefully the vaccine in the New Year. ( should be high on list because of age).
No one comes into my house unless it is vitally necessary. We don't go into anyone else's.
We each meet people outdoors As per the rules, from a very small group of relatives and friends. My wife walks with a friend and I will play golf with one friend. I have postponed competition golf.
We are lucky, my daughter arranges our shopping online and I pick up click and collect.
I go into very few premises and not unless I have to.
There will be no Xmas break from this . Xmas will be only sending cards which we already have a supply of.
It is regrettable, but there it is.
I have my fingers crossed for the NHS in the next two months.

 

[chellie]

Not exactly picking and choosing but I will put my hands up and say that I will be making the most of Xmas. By then I will have had 2 months of no external social interaction and there is a strong prospect of the same for 3 months after. I will put my hands up now and say that I will be making the most of the chance to enjoy the company if friends for those few days. I do not think my mental health could suffer 5 months of just staying at home under tier 3 regulations. Not what many want to hear but I am at least being honest about my intentions and reasoning

Well I'm still meeting others outside in Tier 3. I'll be back to the gym and playing golf when they reopen and will continue to go to the beach for a walk. Can't you do that? We still won't be having any meeting up inside our house though. HID and myself are both still going out to our workplaces. Soon I will be having weekly covid testing.

 

[Leftitshort]

To those who are planning to make unnecessary journeys/meetings/gatherings etc over the next few weeks, please spare a thought for the nurses and doctors.
This is how many of them will be spending their Christmas.

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All they want for Christmas is for you to stay at home.

It’s difficult, define unnecessary. We’re not having our big family Christmas, but I’ll be going to the golf club/gym ASAP. They’re not strictly necessary. Some of the posts above indicate the mental strain of locking yourself up

 

[GB72]

Well I'm still meeting others outside in Tier 3. I'll be back to the gym and playing golf when they reopen and will continue to go to the beach for a walk. Can't you do that? We still won't be having any meeting up inside our house though. HID and myself are both still going out to our workplaces. Soon I will be having weekly covid testing.

Nope, not currently a member of a golf club and perspex screens mean no socialising at the gym. So nope. Don't really socialise at work, stay on my office most of the day and wife works from home at the moment. Really feeling it at the moment and need human interaction outside of just my wife.

 

[chellie]

Nope, not currently a member of a golf club and perspex screens mean no socialising at the gym. So nope. Don't really socialise at work, stay on my office most of the day and wife works from home at the moment. Really feeling it at the moment and need human interaction outside of just my wife.

Ah, only perspex at our gym is for the staff to be behind. Don't really socialise at the gym but at least I'm getting out to see different faces. Can you not arrange to go for a walk with someone else?

 

[GB72]

Ah, only perspex at our gym is for the staff to be behind. Don't really socialise at the gym but at least I'm getting out to see different faces. Can you not arrange to go for a walk with someone else?

Yes but it is what individuals need to relax and relieve stress etc. For me it is meeting with a couple if friends, chatting, couple of bottles of wine etc. Not talking parties etc. Rural living can be very isolating when you take away the community. Even in tier 2 I could set up some heaters in the garden but tier 3 is a nightmare for me. Again, if this was for another month then I think I could handle it better but the fact that the talk is now of being in the same tier until the end of March and we are talking nearly 6 months in relative isolation and I will admit now that I do not think I can follow the rules for that long

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Yes but it is what individuals need to relax and relieve stress etc. For me it is meeting with a couple if friends, chatting, couple of bottles of wine etc. Not talking parties etc. Rural living can be very isolating when you take away the community. Even in tier 2 I could set up some heaters in the garden but tier 3 is a nightmare for me. Again, if this was for another month then I think I could handle it better but the fact that the talk is now of being in the same tier until the end of March and we are talking nearly 6 months in relative isolation and I will admit now that I do not think I can follow the rules for that long

Where is this talk about until the end of March ?

That’s 4 months - they aren’t going to have that level of strict restrictions for 4 months .

They are constantly going to be assessing the situation- I know it’s hard not to do but got to think of the best situations not the worst

 

[AmandaJR]

Equally, just because rules allow it does it make it a good idea? The govt are passing responsibility over to people to an extent now, certainly over Christmas itself. How people treat that responsibility is up to them. I'm okay with that as long as social media is not then filled with people expressing horror at having caught the virus after taking unnecessary risks.

I totally agree. People play dumb to make a point but then seem to know every infinite detail of the rules when it comes to things they want to do. As far as I'm concerned the only change to lockdown is I can play golf and go to the gym. Zero mixing inside for me and I've had the blasted thing so should be immune for a while yet.

 

[GB72]

Where is this talk about until the end of March ?

That’s 4 months - they aren’t going to have that level of strict restrictions for 4 months .

Couple of sources quoted on news sites today (ok usual anonymous ones so slight pinch of salt) that they cannot see tiers changing much and very little chance of reaching tier 1. Guessing the highest pressure on the NHS is in January and February so unlikely to see much/any relaxation until March. No coincidence that this is when furlough was extended to

 

[chellie]

Where is this talk about until the end of March ?

That’s 4 months - they aren’t going to have that level of strict restrictions for 4 months .

They are constantly going to be assessing the situation- I know it’s hard not to do but got to think of the best situations not the worst

Feeling from quite a few I know is that it will be to March as well.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Couple of sources quoted on news sites today (ok usual anonymous ones so slight pinch of salt) that they cannot see tiers changing much and very little chance of reaching tier 1. Guessing the highest pressure on the NHS is in January and February so unlikely to see much/any relaxation until March. No coincidence that this is when furlough was extended to

I am sure that is a not unreasonable assumption.

I don't think there will be much if any change until the vaccination programme is well underway and the experts suggest that will be Easter.

 

[bobmac]

It’s difficult, define unnecessary. We’re not having our big family Christmas, but I’ll be going to the golf club/gym ASAP. They’re not strictly necessary. Some of the posts above indicate the mental strain of locking yourself up

It can't be much fun for the doctors and nurses who have to watch people in their care die needlessly every day.

 

[Leftitshort]

It can't be much fun for the doctors and nurses who have to watch people in their care die needlessly every day.

Without being unduly flippant (unlike your reply) thats unfortunately an occupational hazard. Lockdowns are about easing admission rates, not preventing deaths.
It’s not a zero sum equation. Whilst I support some measures, the effects of this action will be with us long after the vaccine has been proven to be effective.

 

[PJ87]

Without being unduly flippant (unlike your reply) thats unfortunately an occupational hazard. Lockdowns are about easing admission rates, not preventing deaths.
It’s not a zero sum equation. Whilst I support some measures, the effects of this action will be with us long after the vaccine has been proven to be effective.

The mental side is a tough balance

First lockdown I worked solid as a key worker . Overtime constantly

This one I been on leave and paternity .. before lockdown I had leave but could play golf once a week. Just for mental health

I've missed it so much. Im working today .. which is just beautiful to get away from home for a bit. Don't get me wrong I love my kids and my wife dearly but being just at home constantly without a small break has made us snappy at each other and it don't feel great

Got a round booked this week and I predict even a round a fortnight will just help so much more

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Couple of sources quoted on news sites today (ok usual anonymous ones so slight pinch of salt) that they cannot see tiers changing much and very little chance of reaching tier 1. Guessing the highest pressure on the NHS is in January and February so unlikely to see much/any relaxation until March. No coincidence that this is when furlough was extended to

Tier systems will be in place but if areas numbers come down then there is little justification to stay in the highest tier -if an area stays in tier 3 for 4 months then something isn’t right.