Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

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This is similar to our village ordering takeaway food from the pub. Most people order at least once a week as we want a pub and really like our landlord and landlady and so we have to support it through these times.

Our caterer has been doing fruit and veg boxes and meat & fish via his suppliers, and also prepared meals that you can cook or reheat at home. He's also started doing a chip shop style takeaway on Wednesdays (we usually do a 9 hole comp & fish & chip supper throughout the summer) and he's also put out a Christmas list, so it's a fresh rolled Turkey for us this year. I believe the members have supported them well, we've certainly done our bit. :)
 

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Really down now. Tier 3 due to places like Boston and Skegness being in the County despite very little instance in the rural parts of the county. Actually feeling really down about this. What small scale Birthday plans have been cancelled are looking at a realistic prospect of not being able to socialise for another 3 months. Can really understand why people break the rules now as the decision seems arbitrary and unfair and I honestly am not sure that I can spend that long over winter in social isolation.
 

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Really down now. Tier 3 due to places like Boston and Skegness being in the County despite very little instance in the rural parts of the county. Actually feeling really down about this. What small scale Birthday plans have been cancelled are looking at a realistic prospect of not being able to socialise for another 3 months. Can really understand why people break the rules now as the decision seems arbitrary and unfair and I honestly am not sure that I can spend that long over winter in social isolation.

We were in tier 1 when lockdown started. Since then cases have come down and yet we'll come out of lockdown into the revised and stricter tier 2. It sometimes feels as though they're making it up as they go along.
 

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Being bottom left is worst case and being top right is best case.

The labels (save lives/sacrifice lives) does not necessarily reflect the underlying philosophy. Some of those countries got to where they are through incompetence or unpreparedness rather than design, but the overall message is that economic loss and deaths are roughly correlated. This goes to one of the false dichotomies raised in this pandemic, that it is one or the other. It really isn't. Countries that do not address the health challenge won't win the economic battle either. Also, that data is end Q2/2000. Update it for now and the picture may change.
 

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I dont know the fact

Well there seems to be some irregularities in the way the AZ/Oxford vaccine's results have been published.. For the sake of humanity, i hope this is sorted out soon

After admitting mistake, AstraZeneca faces difficult questions
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...accine-study-results/articleshow/79419695.cms

I have just come off a videoconference with John Bell, Regius Prof of Medicine at Oxford, and a major player involved with the vaccine programme spoke about this. He said the MHRA know all about it and are unconcerned, and he believes approval will soon follow. There should be a scientific publication in the next week or so which will deal with the scientific questions.
 
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Being bottom left is worst case and being top right is best case.

I was following this graph till the point someone drew the green and red lines.. not sure i understand what the implication is... A

1) Also are we saying China has 0 Covid deaths a and <10% decline in GDP? While they have bounced back, i cant see how the death rate is so low...
 

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I was following this graph till the point someone drew the green and red lines.. not sure i understand what the implication is... A

1) Also are we saying China has 0 Covid deaths a and <10% decline in GDP? While they have bounced back, i cant see how the death rate is so low...

China death rates are low partly because there is such a massive population across a large area. Some areas have not been too badly involved but others have got hammered, but then put into an overall one country number, looks low. It is also fair to say that when issues arose, the local authorities there clamp down in a way that would make Brits rather unhappy.
 

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So you can play Golf in Tier 3 is how I interpret it?

This is where I am a bit confused. You can play golf in Tier 3 but can you travel outside of your area to play golf. My mum plays at greetham valley and that is in Tier 2 Rutland. A massive percentage of their members, however, are in Lincolnshire and Leicestershire, which are both Tier 3. By the way I read it, only the Tier 2 resident members can use the club.
 
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This is where I am a bit confused. You can play golf in Tier 3 but can you travel outside of your area to play golf. My mum plays at greetham valley and that is in Tier 2 Rutland. A massive percentage of their members, however, are in Lincolnshire and Leicestershire, which are both Tier 3. By the way I read it, only the Tier 2 resident members can use the club.

That's how I have read it as well, I'm in tier 2 but the golf club is tier 3. I am not allowed to travel to the golf club and play, as I am not meant to travel to tier 3(per the covid winter plan detail documents) unless its not work, education, medical, youth services, elite sport or caring.

Hopefully I'm wrong tho.
 

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Really down now. Tier 3 due to places like Boston and Skegness being in the County despite very little instance in the rural parts of the county. Actually feeling really down about this. What small scale Birthday plans have been cancelled are looking at a realistic prospect of not being able to socialise for another 3 months. Can really understand why people break the rules now as the decision seems arbitrary and unfair and I honestly am not sure that I can spend that long over winter in social isolation.


sorry to hear Greg, small crumb of comfort is it is being reviewed each fortnight, so hopefully wont be as long as he 3 mths worst case!
 

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Good to see much tougher tier levels today. A large element have proved if you give them too much rope they'll hang themselves and can't be trusted to be sensible in lower tiers. It will hopefully stop the rate of infection climbing like before and give areas incentives to improve rapidly. Unfortunately some places will be placed under tough measures due to bad geographical luck but you can't have local tiers for every single town or village in the country.

Look at Manchester and Liverpool. One did the sensible thing, acted and have done amazingly well and are in tier 2. Manchester with Burnham playing politics, behaving in a irresponsible way are in tier 3 and will likely stay there for a few more weeks, if not longer. His actions will hurt the local businesses he tried to say he was protecting.
 

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Have had a cough and headaches the last few days here :( was due to the docs for a routine jab yesterday, phoned in advance to check and was ordered not to go but to have a test instead :( dont think/hope its not but now waiting for the test in the post to find out
 

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I was at the Belfry before this lockdown. In tier 1.

A month of Lockdown later, it's at tier 3!? Poor people.

Same for me, no logic. Again. Not that it affects me, just affects businesses and lowly paid people on furlough who will be short on money for the Christmas PR stunt.
 

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Good to see much tougher tier levels today. A large element have proved if you give them too much rope they'll hang themselves and can't be trusted to be sensible in lower tiers. It will hopefully stop the rate of infection climbing like before and give areas incentives to improve rapidly. Unfortunately some places will be placed under tough measures due to bad geographical luck but you can't have local tiers for every single town or village in the country.

Look at Manchester and Liverpool. One did the sensible thing, acted and have done amazingly well and are in tier 2. Manchester with Burnham playing politics, behaving in a irresponsible way are in tier 3 and will likely stay there for a few more weeks, if not longer. His actions will hurt the local businesses he tried to say he was protecting.

True but you can base it on local authorities. South Kesteven has been the 'Liverpool' in your example and have behaved and kept our numbers down but we have been penalised based on the more Urban areas in the North and East of Lincolnshire.
 
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