Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

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Could you guys put a few of these posts on a lead and take them for a walk to another thread, please?

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Honest question for you and hopefully not coming across as too paranoid. The car park I use for work is being partly converted into a covid testing center. Is there any discernible increased risk from keeping on with parking there (thinking of footfall with potential infection coming in contact with my car, general proximity to a queue of people that think they may have covid etc.
 

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Honest question for you and hopefully not coming across as too paranoid. The car park I use for work is being partly converted into a covid testing center. Is there any discernible increased risk from keeping on with parking there (thinking of footfall with potential infection coming in contact with my car, general proximity to a queue of people that think they may have covid etc.
No. Few in the queue will have Covid, and it is outdoors, which massively reduces risk, and even then you would have to get close for a period of time to a case.
 

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They will be told when they are offered a vaccine according to a friend in the trial.
The protocols are sometimes a little different from study to study, but in general people will be told after the blind is broken, and that happens after the database is locked. That should be independent of the national vaccination programme, so you shouldn't have to wait longer to know if you happen to be in a low priority part of the population. It is also normal practice for people who take part in a trial such as this to be offered the real vaccine, ahead of the usual population rollout, if they are found to have been randomly allocated to placebo. Those who received the vaccine will be followed up for longer term safety and efficacy study.
 

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Anyone that is struggling like Saint Hacker, just hang in there. Another week of this then golf and Christmas to look forward to. January will be a bad month but isn't it always? The vaccine roll out will be well underway and evenings getting lighter as we head into February. It'll get better with each week. Just think of spring in the air, Easter approaching, all the bank holidays to come and the buzz of appreciating all the small things again. You might even have a good golf year and be moaning about people not taking the pin out ;)
 

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Just seen on the itv news.
When we come out of lockdown, tier 2 can have longer hours in the pub.
But tier 3 can’t open at all.
This seems illogical to me as longer hours in the pub could mean moving from tier 2 to tier 3.
People can’t need a drink that much surley. But suppose some do!
 

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Anyone that is struggling like Saint Hacker, just hang in there. Another week of this then golf and Christmas to look forward to. January will be a bad month but isn't it always? The vaccine roll out will be well underway and evenings getting lighter as we head into February. It'll get better with each week. Just think of spring in the air, Easter approaching, all the bank holidays to come and the buzz of appreciating all the small things again. You might even have a good golf year and be moaning about people not taking the pin out ;)
Yes our stupid little problems seem very small when you see people really struggling.
It won’t be long let’s hang in there.
 

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Just seen on the itv news.
When we come out of lockdown, tier 2 can have longer hours in the pub.
But tier 3 can’t open at all.
This seems illogical to me as longer hours in the pub could mean moving from tier 2 to tier 3.
People can’t need a drink that much surley. But suppose some do!
The proposal as I see it is that last orders are still at 10.00 but an hour of drinking up time allowed to try and reduce the crowds on the streets with everyone leaving at the same time.
 

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Just seen on the itv news.
When we come out of lockdown, tier 2 can have longer hours in the pub.
But tier 3 can’t open at all.
This seems illogical to me as longer hours in the pub could mean moving from tier 2 to tier 3.
People can’t need a drink that much surley. But suppose some do!
I guess some of it is how you look at your local pub. In my village it is one of the central hubs of the community. People just go there to chat. Many people who are own their own use it as their main place of social contact but a local village pub serves a very different function in life. At present, the landlord is providing free meals to the over 70s in the community to make sure they are doing OK.
 

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The proposal as I see it is that last orders are still at 10.00 but an hour of drinking up time allowed to try and reduce the crowds on the streets with everyone leaving at the same time.
That just means order enough to last you until 11 pm then all spill on the streets at 11pm not 10pm.
Might make sense for the pubs profits but that’s all imo.
 

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I guess some of it is how you look at your local pub. In my village it is one of the central hubs of the community. People just go there to chat. Many people who are own their own use it as their main place of social contact but a local village pub serves a very different function in life. At present, the landlord is providing free meals to the over 70s in the community to make sure they are doing OK.
That sounds great and good on the landlord.
But it’s very different in a big City.
 

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That sounds great and good on the landlord.
But it’s very different in a big City.
It is but I just wanted to put across a point that pubs, certainly in rural communities, play an important role and so the calls by some to get pubs open is sometimes based on their wider reaching significance to a community as opposed to just a need to meet up with mates and get hammered.
 

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It is but I just wanted to put across a point that pubs, certainly in rural communities, play an important role and so the calls by some to get pubs open is sometimes based on their wider reaching significance to a community as opposed to just a need to meet up with mates and get hammered.
Yes I do get that.
Unfortunately they are treating them like outdoor sport.
All closed no matter the risk factor.
 

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Yes I do get that.
Unfortunately they are treating them like outdoor sport.
All closed no matter the risk factor.
Sort of agree with it at the moment. The risk at my pub is minimal but the difficulty of differentiating between risks and then the issue of stopping people from the nearby towns coming to safe village pubs if their pub is shut is just too much to enforce at the moment. Sometimes have to accept that a hammer is being used to crack a nut simply because it is far too difficult or long winded to find the nut crackers.
 

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Sort of agree with it at the moment. The risk at my pub is minimal but the difficulty of differentiating between risks and then the issue of stopping people from the nearby towns coming to safe village pubs if their pub is shut is just too much to enforce at the moment. Sometimes have to accept that a hammer is being used to crack a nut simply because it is far too difficult or long winded to find the nut crackers.
Yes that’s hit the nail on the head.
If your pub was open everyone from nearby towns/ city would travel there to have a drink.
You are then putting your residents in danger.
No real answer to this .
 

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Yes that’s hit the nail on the head.
If your pub was open everyone from nearby towns/ city would travel there to have a drink.
You are then putting your residents in danger.
No real answer to this .
I know that this business of restrictions has been a real pain for some, far more than for some others, but are not some of us mystified as to why now, just as the vaccine is so near, is it being encouraged/permitted for people to meet indoors ( beyond households/bubbles).
It is this that has spread the virus into the second spike. It will do so again.
Those that know about these things, Sage and our own Ethan here, have been saying this, and yet we are inviting chaos to raise its ugly head just before the vaccine is here.
 
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Why is it that common sense means that faced with a highly contagious virus spread by social interaction we still need the Government to TELL us what to do.

And then complain when they do!
 
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