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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Well that was interesting. Relatively large spike compared to recent days. Came in at 6.30 this morning to four new admissions (23 patients) and 4 deaths. Not sure at a local level if this is a blip from the lack of admissions/deaths over the weekend or perhaps a sign the expected surge is about to beging
 
Blue in Munich said:
If you'd read the link you posted you'd have seen this; it transpired that England's chief medical officer, Professor Chris Whitty, had advised that Mr Gove’s daughter should be tested for the virus.

Given that we see enough complaints posted on this thread about not following the advice from the scientists, are we seriously going to suggest an abuse of power when their advice is followed?
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You’re correct re the bit in bold, however, going on the Downing Street response yesterday, that expert advice was given so as to get Gove back to work and save him from self isolating, it doesn’t appear to be for primarily health reasons for his daughter.

Therefore, surely it is correct to ask what the “expert” advice was used for in this context? Are experts going to continue to allow families of certain people in certain positions to be tested to keep that person in the workplace.

HomerJSimpson said:
Well that was interesting. Relatively large spike compared to recent days. Came in at 6.30 this morning to four new admissions (23 patients) and 4 deaths. Not sure at a local level if this is a blip from the lack of admissions/deaths over the weekend or perhaps a sign the expected surge is about to beging
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Can I respectfully request you stop broadcasting updates for the hospital were you work. Surely it is not your job to release this information in to the public domain.
I very much respect the vital role you are doing at this time, but taking time out after just being at work for 2 hours to release this is wrong imo.
I would suggest you are risking your job by doing it.
You never know if people on here have friends or family being admitted in to the hospital and may now be in a state of panic.
 
pauldj42 said:
You’re correct re the bit in bold, however, going on the Downing Street response yesterday, that expert advice was given so as to get Gove back to work and save him from self isolating, it doesn’t appear to be for primarily health reasons for his daughter.

Therefore, surely it is correct to ask what the “expert” advice was used for in this context? Are experts going to continue to allow families of certain people in certain positions to be tested to keep that person in the workplace.



Can I respectfully request you stop broadcasting updates for the hospital were you work. Surely it is not your job to release this information in to the public domain.
I very much respect the vital role you are doing at this time, but taking time out after just being at work for 2 hours to release this is wrong imo.
I would suggest you are risking your job by doing it.
You never know if people on here have friends or family being admitted in to the hospital and may now be in a state of panic.
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He's only risking his job if he gives personal details of said people. homer wasn't just spouting out info. he was using it to build a point that they've had a serge of cases. People are getting a little sensitive
 
hovis said:
He's only risking his job if he gives personal details of said people. homer wasn't just spouting out info. he was using it to build a point that they've had a serge of cases. People are getting a little sensitive
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I disagree about what he’s releasing, it’s not his choice and I’d suggest the hospital has someone whose job it actually is to release that information, also do you not think we have people on here who are served by the hospital he works at?

Maybe he needs to be a bit more aware and sensitive with the information he is privvy to.
 
pauldj42 said:
I disagree about what he’s releasing, it’s not his choice and I’d suggest the hospital has someone whose job it actually is to release that information, also do you not think we have people on here who are served by the hospital he works at?

Maybe he needs to be a bit more aware and sensitive with the information he is privvy to.
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that would be no different to me saying I attended an rtc last night cut two people out and one died. I'm just stating a fact. no personal info being given out so no harm. maybe to some its offensive but you can't please everyone. personally homers post is fine. just stating some facts. I'm a big boy. I can take it
 
hovis said:
He's only risking his job if he gives personal details of said people. homer wasn't just spouting out info. he was using it to build a point that they've had a serge of cases. People are getting a little sensitive
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Whilst I like to read the updates personally, from an interest factor.

I don't think it will be seen like that at all, he is disclosing confidential information about the Hospital, that should be not disclosed(you are confusing that with the disclosure of data protection/confidential personal patient information).

Either disclosure could lead to action by the employer IMHO, especially as it isn't anything to do with protecting the staff(such as PPE issues for example, which could be defendable).

PS Your example is not linkable to a personal or place, Homers is. Big difference. But even at that level you need to be careful IMHO.

Hope that helps.
 
DRW said:
Whilst I like to read the updates personally, from an interest factor.

I don't think it will be seen like that at all, he is disclosing confidential information about the Hospital, that should be not disclosed(you are confusing that with the disclosure of data protection/confidential personal patient information).

Either disclosure could lead to action by the employer IMHO, especially as it isn't anything to do with protecting the staff(such as PPE issues for example, which could be defendable).

PS Your example is not linkable to a personal or place, Homers is. Big difference. But even at that level you need to be careful IMHO.

Hope that helps.
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i can see your point and I'm not savy to information that is and isn't allowed to be disclosed outside of personal data. I just find it ironic that in about 10 minutes the info that homer has posted could be in the local herald.
i also don't know where homer works. maybe he has mentioned before. this is the reason I don't state what station I work at
 
hovis said:
that would be no different to me saying I attended an rtc last night cut two people out and one died. I'm just stating a fact. no personal info being given out so no harm. maybe to some its offensive but you can't please everyone. personally homers post is fine. just stating some facts. I'm a big boy. I can take it
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Of course it’s different, using your scenario: You attended a house fire, return to the station and one of the support staff posts on a Public forum how many have died etc you believe that’s ok? It’s not down to them or you to decide what information needs to be in the public domain, it’s why we have “Press Officers” so this information can be controlled.

I’ve seen the damage first hand from Afghan and Iraq when people have “shared” information on deaths they see as harmless.

Fact is, names or not he is breaking confidentiality giving numbers out.
 
Some countries now opening restrictions and sounds like the Japanese island is now experiencing a second wave, must follow for the countries.

But the relaxation has to happen, otherwise supply chains are going to start failing soon, (from crops, picking, packaging, supply of what people call essential items like food/clothing but also the much bigger picture such as roof tiles, central heating pumps that keep us dry and warm etc), all the stuff attached to living in particular. See some processing centres have closed down due to the virus being rampant within the workforces and must mean in the food chains worryingly(such has frozen foods in particular, due the virus being able to survive iirc)

The supply chains breaking down are as 'scary or maybe more scarier' than the virus ripping though, as once they start to fail, that would lead to civil unrest and starvation across the world.

I wake up the morning and then remember I am in a disaster movie but seeing it pan out in slow motion as such.

As such the show must go on due to the big picture.
 
hovis said:
i can see your point and I'm not savy to information that is and isn't allowed to be disclosed outside of personal data. I just find it ironic that in about 10 minutes the info that homer has posted could be in the local herald.
i also don't know where homer works. maybe he has mentioned before. this is the reason I don't state what station I work at
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Unfortunately, a lot on here are fully aware of were he works, how long for, problems he’s had etc etc.

I fully admire what he’s doing, but he needs to think about what he is posting.
 
pauldj42 said:
Fact is, names or not he is breaking confidentiality giving numbers out.
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is he? genuine question as I know zero about NHS confidentiality. he isn't breaching data protection so what confidential agreement did homer have to sign to prevent him giving out broad numbers? perhaps this is one for homer to comment on as i dont know personally
 
My lad spoke to his postie mate over the weekend... Seems their current parcel volumes are exceeding those they experience in the run up to Xmas... Not really helpful when they are also, at the same time, having to deal with issues around distancing in the sorting rooms... Think the first person that whinges, to him, for a slow service will get a sharp response...
 
MegaSteve said:
My lad spoke to his postie mate over the weekend... Seems their current parcel volumes are exceeding those they experience in the run up to Xmas... Not really helpful when they are also, at the same time, having to deal with issues around distancing in the sorting rooms... Think the first person that whinges, to him, for a slow service will get a sharp response...
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my golf partner works for fedex/TNT. he said measures are very strict and they are all very greatful for the extra work to keep them in a job.
 
MegaSteve said:
My lad spoke to his postie mate over the weekend... Seems their current parcel volumes are exceeding those they experience in the run up to Xmas... Not really helpful when they are also, at the same time, having to deal with issues around distancing in the sorting rooms... Think the first person that whinges, to him, for a slow service will get a sharp response...
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id hope people are understanding, I know round here everyone is grateful to the post man still bringing their stuff so they can do a few more things

I must say this knock and leave parcel on door step situation as left hermes ahead of the curve... been doing that about 5 years
 
pauldj42 said:
You’re correct re the bit in bold, however, going on the Downing Street response yesterday, that expert advice was given so as to get Gove back to work and save him from self isolating, it doesn’t appear to be for primarily health reasons for his daughter.

Therefore, surely it is correct to ask what the “expert” advice was used for in this context? Are experts going to continue to allow families of certain people in certain positions to be tested to keep that person in the workplace.
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And if the posted link says that then fine mate, but to post a link that doesn't give that information but instead gives a perfectly reasonable explanation for the test, and then follows it up with a snide little dig just comes across as yet more political point scoring at a time when we really, really don't need it.
 
Blue in Munich said:
And if the posted link says that then fine mate, but to post a link that doesn't give that information but instead gives a perfectly reasonable explanation for the test, and then follows it up with a snide little dig just comes across as yet more political point scoring at a time when we really, really don't need it.
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I agree, that’s why I mentioned the clarification from No 10 yesterday.(y)
 
pauljames87 said:
id hope people are understanding, I know round here everyone is grateful to the post man still bringing their stuff so they can do a few more things

I must say this knock and leave parcel on door step situation as left hermes ahead of the curve... been doing that about 5 years
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The issues are not when he's out on his round... But as I noted, in my post, within the sorting office where distancing measures and super high volumes are creating a bottleneck and therefore delays in delivery...
 
pauljames87 said:
id hope people are understanding, I know round here everyone is grateful to the post man still bringing their stuff so they can do a few more things

I must say this knock and leave parcel on door step situation as left hermes ahead of the curve... been doing that about 5 years
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Don't mention that company! ?
 
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