Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Ethan

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Getting tiring again.

For those who feel OK with restrictions, don't waste your breath. You'll try and provide an answer, it'll be ignored. Unless you are a certified medical professional, you have no idea anyway. You are just getting your information from the Sun or media health "experts" anyway. Did you know, a media health expert would come on to a show to explain why it was a BAD idea to lift vaccination requirements, but the producer would tell them to say it was a GOOD idea. I know it sounds strange, especially given the agenda of that show was very much to say every decision made since Covid began has been a disaster. Big u-turn by the TV channel.

I'm happy to say I'm comfortable with the current guidelines, and I can caveat that with the fact there is no certainty in life, and things change. If others are 100% certain one way or another, then that is their decision. Maybe they'd be better spending time on medical health forums than golf ones though, if they want to chat to experts in the area.

You are just making yourself look even more foolish, but also a bit bitter. You should stop now.
 

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You are just making yourself look even more foolish, but also a bit bitter. You should stop now.
Cheers for your expert analysis as an expert psychologist. Much appreciated ;)

As had already been said by someone else, here we go again. And yes, it was my fault for even bothering to get involved again by trying to provide a possible answer to a question that was asked.

It is clear answers are not actually wanted. It has simply become a thread in which some people can come and have a moan about decisions being made, and then somehow believe that there is no good answer whatsoever on why a decision was made. Or, that the answer is some sort of conspiracy, such as a deflection tactic or whatever. Any plausible explanation is conveniently ignored, or flimsy excuses made to try and completely discredit that answer.

So yes, I am a little bitter with myself that I even bothered getting involved. As I said, others are welcome to come to their own conclusions, nothing any of us say in a Golf Monthly forum is going to change the world.
 

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nothing any of us say in a Golf Monthly forum is going to change the world.

Exactly.
Global calamities invented by the media to scare people aren't going to scare me because I don't watch them.
And to those who spend large chunks of their day LOOKING for bad news, do yourself a favour, turn it all off, your blood pressure will thank you.
 

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And so from what I gather from what I have read. The reason to remove the mandatory requirement for care workers to be vaccinated, despite there being benefits - albeit perhaps not that significant on an individual basis, but certainly valuable as a future new variant mitigation factor, would appear to be that the numbers leaving or being dismissed as a result of the requirement is the straw that is in danger of breaking the camel's back of resourcing.

The fact that care resourcing immediately pre-covid was in a perilous state, and why, is well understood. The real issue is, it seems, therefore really the underlying pre-covid level of resourcing and not that some have left as a result of the vaccination requirement. As the numbers have been relatively small (cf overall care resource numbers) removing the requirement will go some way to easing the crisis but it won't go anywhere near to fixing it - with the downside that we will lose the immediate and longer term benefits of vaccination.

Well I think that that is what I have read and deduced.
 

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And so from what I gather from what I have read. The reason to remove the mandatory requirement for care workers to be vaccinated, despite there being benefits - albeit perhaps not that significant on an individual basis, but certainly valuable as a future new variant mitigation factor, would appear to be that the numbers leaving or being dismissed as a result of the requirement is the straw that is in danger of breaking the camel's back of resourcing.

The fact that care resourcing immediately pre-covid was in a perilous state, and why, is well understood. The real issue is, it seems, therefore really the underlying pre-covid level of resourcing and not that some have left as a result of the vaccination requirement. As the numbers have been relatively small (cf overall care resource numbers) removing the requirement will go some way to easing the crisis but it won't go anywhere near to fixing it - with the downside that we will lose the immediate and longer term benefits of vaccination.

Well I think that that is what I have read and deduced.

Agree,.... broadly.

But will someone explain fully......please.
If a vaccinated person can still pick up the virus and( in the relevant circumstances...I'm envisaging a care worker attending a patient, I.e close contact) pass it on to someone else, why does it make a difference to the one to whom they've passed the virus whether the passer is vaccinated?
This is a genuine question....because if it doesn't make a difference, then why cannot a care worker carry on as such ( unvaccinated),even if they are risking their own health?

Now I believe folks should be vaccinated in order to be protected and to avoid putting pressure on NHS etc when becoming ( unnecessarily) seriously il. There is a societal duty there.

However, this is a somewhat different question - this is about the ability to infect others. Do you have less ability to do that, if you have the virus , because you are vaccinated.
Will those who say yes please explain why?
 

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It is different for different variants and the time since vaccination.
But the evidence suggests broadly that you are less likely to actually become infected if you are fully vaccinated and if you do become infected you are likely to shed virus for a shorter period of time and therefore less likely to infect others.
With Omicron the differences are smaller than with previous variants.
 

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Well well,

First weekend of proper plans in 2 years and it's out the window lol no biggy

Mates 50th pulled out of
Batman Sunday cancelled

Wife tested positive this morning

I'm still negative

Off this weekend for first weekend since Nov and I'll test all weekend

Twins negative. Eldest still at school , will have to test her tonight
 

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I've been working this week at a small primary school. Our group of cyclists started at 15 and gradually depleted to 9 due to Covid. Yesterday the ONLY kids in a class of 21 without Covid were our hardy group of 9. Maybe reaping the benefits of being outside for a few hours rather than the classroom but pretty worrying it's still so rampant.

I tested negative yesterday but cancelled golf today just in case, as playing partner is older plus has a very poorly friend she visits.
 

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I've been working this week at a small primary school. Our group of cyclists started at 15 and gradually depleted to 9 due to Covid. Yesterday the ONLY kids in a class of 21 without Covid were our hardy group of 9. Maybe reaping the benefits of being outside for a few hours rather than the classroom but pretty worrying it's still so rampant.

I tested negative yesterday but cancelled golf today just in case, as playing partner is older plus has a very poorly friend she visits.

my parents are offering to take the kids off us so the Mrs can recover

ive told them to stay away. my grandads in hospital surely his health is more important lol cut ties with us for a week ... could do with the break lol
 

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Eventually my time has come. Felt rough at work.
Text our lass as she was having friend round and I was going to a leaving due tonight.
She’s asked what I’m cooking for tea since I’m home…
 

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I've had it a week now and my Wife's now got it. Although not completely debilitating it's made us feel pretty rough: headaches, chesty congestion, sore throat, blocked nose and weariness. Of course I had the male version which was more severe but us guys don't talk about it and suffer in silence ??
 

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Mrs first tested positive Friday

We have tested the rest of us every day and all 4 of us are still negative

All the upstairs windows are open all day

Kitchen window open

When she joins us for kids meal times to help me she wears 2 masks

I took 3 days leave and I was leave for golf Thursday anyways so just cancelled that.

Defo makes a difference your income based on what you can do.. I mean if we were both losing money I'd have to go work and she would have to put the kids at risk ..tbh she can't cope as normal it's gone to her chest a bit so she just hiding away

I've had 4 nights now just me and the girls at night lol new respect for the Mrs when I'm nights little... treasures..

Wife joins me for a social distance evening meal then disappears to the loft until morning

Even though we legally don't have to do anything she's only left house once. We all went for a walk she stayed masked up whilst the kids got a change of location

Eldest went school yest , nanny did a door pick up and drop off .. school policy is fine with her in and God it's made her stop climbing the walls

If we can just get to the weekend all negative we know it was all worth it
 
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