Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

[GB72]

What happens if you already have guests from another household staying with you IF they introduce new restrictions on households not mixing indoors? For example, there's a suggestion that Step 2 restrictions will be introduced from around 27th/28th Dec, which includes no socialising indoors. If you have relatives staying over Xmas do you have to kick them out on 27th when the new restrictions come in even if they were planning to stay for New Year as well?

Or just ignore them so as you are not socialising (not difficult with some of my relatives)

 

[Lord Tyrion]

What happens if you already have guests from another household staying with you IF they introduce new restrictions on households not mixing indoors? For example, there's a suggestion that Step 2 restrictions will be introduced from around 27th/28th Dec, which includes no socialising indoors. If you have relatives staying over Xmas do you have to kick them out on 27th when the new restrictions come in even if they were planning to stay for New Year as well?

If they are already there then you are already a household, m'lud. That would be how I read it anyway. You are already mixing after all.

 

[road2ruin]

If they are already there then you are already a household, m'lud. That would be how I read it anyway. You are already mixing after all.

I agree, that's how we're reading it anyway as we're down on the coast with my parents so that'll be our Christmas bubble which will finish on the 29th. We're then home to hunker down until the 31st when we start our New Years bubble....

 

[Hobbit]

Trying to update our Covid passports on the day they become mandatory to enter bars and restaurants. Maybe should post in random irritations. Tried multiple times without joy.

 

[Blue in Munich]

Hope your both get through it ok. On the positive side you can have a nice time together. How romantic.

Thanks Jeff ?

 

[Italian outcast]

Flying to Scotland tomorrow - tested this mornin - Omnicron free (and all other greek characters)

 

[Old Skier]

I dont care what the government say, this year the whole family will be taking tests xmas morning, and assuming everyone is clear we will be having a 'business meeting' at our house which will take the rest of the day and the evening.

With cheese ? ? I hope

 

[Old Skier]

Trying to update our Covid passports on the day they become mandatory to enter bars and restaurants. Maybe should post in random irritations. Tried multiple times without joy.

NHS one or the EU, I have found that after a hour or two my LFCs are updated on the NHS app..

 

[Italian outcast]

Trying to update our Covid passports on the day they become mandatory to enter bars and restaurants. Maybe should post in random irritations. Tried multiple times without joy.

Brian, I'm not sure what system you are using in Spain - but the French TousAntiCovid App is near idiot proof and works across Europe - i use it everytime I'm asked here in Italy
Although I was vaccinated in France it recognises QRs from any EU scheme
Can that not work for you in Sunny Spain?

 

[road2ruin]

Apparently three options are being consider, low/medium/high....

1. Urging the public to limit social mixing indoors, without legal enforcement

2. Mandating curbs on household mixing, the return of social distancing and forcing pubs and restaurants to close at 20:00 GMT

3. A return to full lockdown

Now being reported that it'll be option 2 from the 27th which is basically step 2 from last April however it'll be for a month rather than 2 weeks.

 

[Hobbit]

Brian, I'm not sure what system you are using in Spain - but the French TousAntiCovid App is near idiot proof and works across Europe - i use it everytime I'm asked here in Italy
Although I was vaccinated in France it recognises QRs from any EU scheme
Can that not work for you in Sunny Spain?

There is an EU Covid passport link within the Spanish health app but it requires a digital signature that we can get from the town hall. I’ll persevere today but must resolve by tomorrow evening. Wedding anniversary on Wednesday, and supposed to be off out for a meal.

As an aside, very concerned by a massive hike in numbers over the weekend after a very quiet few weeks. Methinks Omnicron has arrived…

 

[Italian outcast]

There is an EU Covid passport link within the Spanish health app but it requires a digital signature that we can get from the town hall. I’ll persevere today but must resolve by tomorrow evening. Wedding anniversary on Wednesday, and supposed to be off out for a meal.

As an aside, very concerned by a massive hike in numbers over the weekend after a very quiet few weeks. Methinks Omnicron has arrived…

And I thought Italy was bureaucratic hell

Yes numbers climbing here in Italy as well - but folk don't seem to concerned - not seeing (yet) any public pronouncements we saw recently from the French and German camps
What I do see is a generally greater amount of folk wearing masks outdoors than it seemed a few weeks ago

 

[Ethan]

Now being reported that it'll be option 2 from the 27th which is basically step 2 from last April however it'll be for a month rather than 2 weeks.

Putting an extra lock on the stable door, then? Not going to bother horse who is long gone.

Reports that the test-positive rate is up 50%. That strongly suggests the rise in cases is NOT due to more testing, the opposite, in fact, likely missing a greater proportion of cases.

 

[PJ87]

Apparently three options are being consider, low/medium/high....

1. Urging the public to limit social mixing indoors, without legal enforcement

2. Mandating curbs on household mixing, the return of social distancing and forcing pubs and restaurants to close at 20:00 GMT

3. A return to full lockdown

All I say to that is good luck .

Before they had a lot of sticking to rules but with the rule breaking parties people are angry I don't see as many sticking this time around

All that would happen is buissness punished as they legally can't open but people I'd bet would still meet inside... What's good for the goose and all that

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Flying to Scotland tomorrow - tested this mornin - Omnicron free (and all other greek characters)

No issue with getting back to Italy from the UK? I know we are on the naughty list with quite a few countries.

Enjoy your Christmas in Scotland, assuming you are staying there ?

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

We know that there was an emergency COBRA meeting at 2pm. We have since heard nothing and no briefing has been scheduled for tonight. That does not feel good to me - though we learn that the meeting is ongoing; that the situation is extremely serious and being reviewed hourly. So we keep on carrying on as before being cautious. I sense a misalignment and mismatch of risk and mitigation. Worrying.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I dont care what the government say, this year the whole family will be taking tests xmas morning, and assuming everyone is clear we will be having a 'business meeting' at our house which will take the rest of the day and the evening.

You’d be OK as Kay Burley was told this morning that cheese and drinkies in the garden are ok once the business of the day is done, as they would not be subject to ‘socialising’ restrictions ??

 

[Hobbit]

We know that there was an emergency COBRA meeting at 2pm. We have since heard nothing and no briefing has been scheduled for tonight. That does not feel good to me - though we learn that the meeting is ongoing; that the situation is extremely serious and being reviewed hourly. So we keep on carrying on as before being cautious. I sense a misalignment and mismatch of risk and mitigation. Worrying.

We know the right things to do on a personal level, and for some that includes not doing some things that are currently permitted. I’d suggest you measure your own risk aversion and act accordingly.

 

[IanM]

Don't worry old chap, whatever they do it will be reported as wrong....

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

We know the right things to do on a personal level, and for some that includes not doing some things that are currently permitted. I’d suggest you measure your own risk aversion and act accordingly.

Exactly what we are doing. And because we know that many don’t seem to be as inclined as we are to be extremely cautious or get vaccinated, this means that for the coming week we have pretty strict self-imposed limitations on what we do; who we meet, and where/how we meet them.