Club Championships

[Deleted member 18645]

It's probably because 90% of them of course have no chance of winning a scratch event so don't even consider it. By all means give the big named trophy "The John Smith Cup" or whatever to the net winner. But to not even recognise lowest gross .... I was talking today with a former low handicap senior at the club and he was telling me it has been like this for years. He think he won the scratch about six or seven times. So we raised our glasses together and congratulated each other whilst sticking two fingers up at the whole idea

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Then call it something else, giving the title of club champion to someone who just happens to have played his best on a random days seems wrong to me.

At most clubs the “club champion” is the winner of either the Gross comp or a scratch KO

The “Senior” champion is prob a bit of mix and in most clubs is prob just a senior section comp for those that can just play midweek

 

[D-S]

At most clubs the “club champion” is the winner of either the Gross comp or a scratch KO

The “Senior” champion is prob a bit of mix and in most clubs is prob just a senior section comp for those that can just play midweek

Our Senior definition has a 55 and over age limit. This of course naturally includes a lot of members who aren't retired and wouldn't necessarily be able to play midweek.

We therefore run it at a weekend and have 5 or so entrants below 5 and 20 or so below 10. This way we do find the best over 55 champion and this is of course the gross winner. There are of course Divisional and net prizes as well - it is a very popular event and rightly has its place in the golfing calendar.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Our Senior definition has a 55 and over age limit. This of course naturally includes a lot of members who aren't retired and wouldn't necessarily be able to play midweek.

We therefore run it at a weekend and have 5 or so entrants below 5 and 20 or so below 10. This way we do find the best over 55 champion and this is of course the gross winner. There are of course Divisional and net prizes as well - it is a very popular event and rightly has its place in the golfing calendar.

The Senior Section runs there championship hence it’s during the week

We also would struggle to run it at the weekend due to the level of under 55’s that play at the weekends

 

[doublebogey7]

At most clubs the “club champion” is the winner of either the Gross comp or a scratch KO

The “Senior” champion is prob a bit of mix and in most clubs is prob just a senior section comp for those that can just play midweek

At the two clubs I've been a member the Senior's Champion has always been winner of the gross in the Senior's Chamionship.

 

[doublebogey7]

The Senior Section runs there championship hence it’s during the week

We also would struggle to run it at the weekend due to the level of under 55’s that play at the weekends

That's then where its going wrong. The club championship at my current and previous club is run by the competition committee and takes place at a weekend. Up until last year the minimum age for our seniors section was 60, but to keep us in line with amateur golf ruling bodies our club championship was always for anyone over the age of 55.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

That's then where its going wrong. The club championship at my current and previous club is run by the competition committee and takes place at a weekend. Up until last year the minimum age for our seniors section was 60, but to keep us in line with amateur golf ruling bodies our club championship was always for anyone over the age of 55.

The club championship is run by the clubs comp committee and is run at the weekend

The Seniors is run by the Senior committee and is midweek

There is little to no chance we close the course for a Saturday just for the Senior Championships

 

[Swango1980]

Our Senior Champs is 18 hole Medal.
If it was a Scatch comp like the main Club Champs there would about 3 people in with a chance of winning it.
99: of the over 50s simply wouldn't bother.

The best lady at our club is miles better than all the rest, so she has won their club champs for many years in a row. And, rightly so, she is the best and scores the best. They have a nett comp as well, as the men do, so everyone can still play and compete for something. But the title of club champs goes to the best gross score. As it should be as far as I'm concerned

If some 50 handicapper woman won best nett score and was Club Champ, then all I'd say the title of Club Champ is meaningless at that club.

 

[Backache]

The club championship is run by the clubs comp committee and is run at the weekend

The Seniors is run by the Senior committee and is midweek

There is little to no chance we close the course for a Saturday just for the Senior Championships

Do you need to close the course or keep some of the times reserved for the seniors Championship?

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Do you need to close the course or keep some of the times reserved for the seniors Championship?

Its closed for over 100 players during the mid week from 8 through to 12

So when does it close during the Saturday

 

[Backache]

Its closed for over 100 players during the mid week from 8 through to 12

So when does it close during the Saturday

If you want a seniors champion same as a club championship . But it need not be for a large number of players, you could for instance have 16 lowest handicaps and four tee times. am and pm.


Our own seniors runs concurrently with the ordinary championship but it does not have a matchplay component. Just the lowest scoring senior from the stroke play section.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

If you want a seniors champion same as a club championship . But it need not be for a large number of players, you could for instance have 16 lowest handicaps and four tee times. am and pm.

The Seniors can enter the Club Championship

That’s the main one , everything else is just a section age one

The Senior section run the comp to the satisfy the majority

At the end of the day people pay to play at a golf club and what comps etc are put up should be for the majority

There are county events for the more serious stuff - being a Senior or Junior Champion at a club is very low level tbh

 

[Backache]

The Seniors can enter the Club Championship

That’s the main one , everything else is just a section age one

The Senior section run the comp to the satisfy the majority

At the end of the day people pay to play at a golf club and what comps etc are put up should be for the majority

There are county events for the more serious stuff - being a Senior or Junior Champion at a club is very low level tbh

As I said each to their own but I'm not surprised the Senior Champion is a very low level if it is a nett competition. There are lots of nett competitions it just seems a bit odd to me that one is designated a champion. but it isn't my club and if that's the way you like it it doesn't worry me.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

As I said each to their own but I'm not surprised the Senior Champion is a very low level if it is a nett competition. There are lots of nett competitions it just seems a bit odd to me that one is designated a champion. but it isn't my club and if that's the way you like it it doesn't worry me.

It’s both at ours - there is a gross comp and a nett comp for various trophies

There is a also an over 70’s comp and over 80’s comp

Each trophy is named as opposed to “Senior Scratch or Handicap” champion

 

[doublebogey7]

The club championship is run by the clubs comp committee and is run at the weekend

The Seniors is run by the Senior committee and is midweek

There is little to no chance we close the course for a Saturday just for the Senior Championships

Why would you need to close the course for the day?

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Why would you need to close the course for the day?

Because there are currently over 100 plus playing in the Senior Championship, when can it be played at weekend whilst also allowing those under 55 to play on the day

 

[doublebogey7]

Because there are currently over 100 plus playing in the Senior Championship, when can it be played at weekend whilst also allowing those under 55 to play on the day

Personally don't see a problem if they are all full members and its just one weekend day out of a 100 a year. Anyway thats not really my issue if the club feel the best day to play it is in the middle of the week, no problem but award the title of champion to the winner of the gross.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Personally don't see a problem if they are all full members and its just one weekend day out of a 100 a year. Anyway thats not really my issue if the club feel the best day to play it is in the middle of the week, no problem but award the title of champion to the winner of the gross.

The senior comp has two named trophies

One for the best gross and one for the best nett - they don’t really get called the “Senior Champion” as such

 

[Springveldt]

Ours isn't until the 19th of this month, 36 holes on the Saturday. Lowest handicaps out first.

There is also an 18 hole handicap competition on the same day between the morning and afternoon tee times for the club championship.

Playing handicap of 9 and under for the club championship and interestingly you must have a playing handicap of 10 or over for the handicap competition. Basically all single figure handicappers are forced into the club championship that day if they want a game which most know they have zero chance of winning, there is maybe 3 or 4 guys that could win it although 1 of them is the firm favourite considering he's won it 13 times. I don't mind as I just want a day out and to see if I can score under 160 for the combined rounds.

 

[arnieboy]

Sounds like my club may be an outlier with regards to field size. Played over 2 days (next weekend) with a full field of 96 players. As mentioned, there is a scratch and handicap competition with divisions for handicap. Booked slots on Saturday and score order on Sunday and was fully booked up on opening of the sheet

Exactly how our club does it.