Claw grip for putting

delc said:
Unfortunately the game of golf comes in two halves. First of all golf itself, which is a 3-dimensional ball game played through the air, followed by putting, which is a 2-dimensional ball game played on a flattish prepared grass surface. Putting can be a game in its own right! I have always thought that putting is a too important part of golf, hence my campaign for a (slightly) bigger hole. There are plenty of superb strikers of a golf ball who are poor putters, and therefore have no chance of competing at the top level. Such people become trick shot artists or teaching pros, or move into another sport or occupation altogether! :(
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Well that didn't take long did it <sigh>. Might as well close this one down right now. I'm out
 
delc said:
Unfortunately the game of golf comes in two halves. First of all golf itself, which is a 3-dimensional ball game played through the air, followed by putting, which is a 2-dimensional ball game played on a flattish prepared grass surface. Putting can be a game in its own right! I have always thought that putting is a too important part of golf, hence my campaign for a (slightly) bigger hole. There are plenty of superb strikers of a golf ball who are poor putters, and therefore have no chance of competing at the top level. Such people become trick shot artists or teaching pros, or move into another sport or occupation altogether! :(
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Maybe scoring goals is too important a part of football!

Put whatever spin you want on it Delc, you're still talking rubbish.
 
delc said:
Unfortunately the game of golf comes in two halves. First of all golf itself, which is a 3-dimensional ball game played through the air, followed by putting, which is a 2-dimensional ball game played on a flattish prepared grass surface. Putting can be a game in its own right! I have always thought that putting is a too important part of golf, hence my campaign for a (slightly) bigger hole. There are plenty of superb strikers of a golf ball who are poor putters, and therefore have no chance of competing at the top level. Such people become trick shot artists or teaching pros, or move into another sport or occupation altogether! :(
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What a complete load of garbage, not sure if it's just attention seeking or lunacy :rofl:
 
Liverpoolphil said:
McIlroy has changed to the left hand below right method for the WGC - will be interesting to see how he gets on
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Hadn't seen this, hopefully he finds something to be a bit more consistent with his putting. Be interesting to see how it goes.

I putt left hand low but I'm a rubbish putter, just less rubbish that way than with a conventional grip!! :rofl:
 
HawkeyeMS said:
Well done, but what does that prove?
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That if I hadn't changed my putting method, my handicap would be about 19 or 20, rather than 12. Confidence was mentioned. I feel confident about my putting stroke using the claw grip, whereas I never did with a conventional grip. I do sometimes miss short putts of course, but I nearly always put a good stroke on the ball. I use the claw grip from all distances, even from well of the green btw.
 
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delc said:
Unfortunately the game of golf comes in two halves. First of all golf itself, which is a 3-dimensional ball game played through the air, followed by putting, which is a 2-dimensional ball game played on a flattish prepared grass surface. Putting can be a game in its own right! I have always thought that putting is a too important part of golf, hence my campaign for a (slightly) bigger hole. There are plenty of superb strikers of a golf ball who are poor putters, and therefore have no chance of competing at the top level. Such people become trick shot artists or teaching pros, or move into another sport or occupation altogether! :(
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There's something rather one-dimensional about this!! :rolleyes:

There are also some players who are great Drivers, others who are Great Iron players, still more who are great Wedge players and others who are just really good all-rounders! So while it's definitely a different phase of the game and has certain unique aspects, there's nothing particularly unique about Putting as a 'separate' part of the game where some can excel and others are relatively poor at!
 
Foxholer said:
There's something rather one-dimensional about this!! :rolleyes:

There are also some players who are great Drivers, others who are Great Iron players, still more who are great Wedge players and others who are just really good all-rounders! So while it's definitely a different phase of the game and has certain unique aspects, there's nothing particularly unique about Putting as a 'separate' part of the game where some can excel and others are relatively poor at!
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But putting requires fine motor skills, which often seem to fail well before the rest of a golfer's skills, and I am sure that the pressure of holing crucial 3-4 foot putts into a relatively small hole gets to people over time, showing up as the yips. Many fine golfers who have previously been good putters seem to succumb to them in their 30's or 40's, and sometimes even younger, e.g. Bernhardt Langer, Sergio Garcia and Adam Scott.
 
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delc said:
But putting requires fine motor skills, which often seem to fail well before the rest of a golfer's skills, and I am sure that the pressure of holing crucial 3-4 foot gets to people over time, showing up as the yips. Many fine golfers who have previously been good putters seem to succumb to them in their 30's or 40's, and sometimes even younger, e.g. Bernhardt Langer, Sergio Garcia and Adam Scott.
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And Driving requires its own specific skills, Iron play requires its own skills, Wedge play its own set of skills, Bunker play its own set of skills and playing under pressure its own set of skills!

So, as I posted, nothing uniquely unique about Putting in that regard!
 
Foxholer said:
And Driving requires its own specific skills, Iron play requires its own skills, Wedge play its own set of skills, Bunker play its own set of skills and playing under pressure its own set of skills!

So, as I posted, nothing uniquely unique about Putting in that regard!
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Well, I have been playing golf for 55 years and I still haven't developed the driving yips (yes I know they exist, but they are pretty rare), but got the putting yips at the age of 52, some 17 years ago now!
 
So many putter makes and model and so many ways to swing it. I don't think two players going to a claw grip is the start of a golfing revolution and wouldn't be surprised if they tried something else in a few weeks
 
Well well well....I think you guys need to have a look, more players than you think using the claw, pencil whatever you want to call it. They're coming out using this style right off the bat not just after they run into putting issues. I'll leave it to you guys to have a proper look at who's doing what. Long gone are the days of a standard putting grip or technique.
 
Del, I putt better than my handicap but am short off the tee. I believe there's too much importance placed on the driving distance facet of the game

I'd like a smaller (slightly) hole size please, would you support my campaign?
 
Slab said:
Del, I putt better than my handicap but am short off the tee. I believe there's too much importance placed on the driving distance facet of the game

I'd like a smaller (slightly) hole size please, would you support my campaign?
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At the age of 69, I'm not that long off the tee anymore either. A good drive for me is now only about 210 yards, maybe 220 with a following breeze, but I am normally a pretty straight hitter and keep the ball on the short stuff. The shorter your hitting, the more dependent on your short game you become, so I don't understand your argument. You should welcome anything that makes chipping and putting slightly easier! :)
 
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delc said:
At the age of 69, I'm not that long off the tee anymore either. A good drive for me is now only about 210 yards, maybe 220 with a following breeze, but I am normally a pretty straight hitter and keep the ball on the short stuff. The shorter your hitting, the more dependent on your short game you become, so I don't understand your argument. You should welcome anything that makes chipping and putting slightly easier! :)
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I'm short off the tee, miss too many greens and have a crap short game. There is nothing wrong with the size of the hole and if I want to get better I need to find a better way to utilise my shots and make better scores. It could be the size of a bucket but if it takes four to get on there with a missed green and cuffed chip/pitch it don't make any odds and I still won't score. Let it go man
 
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