Cheating

What dictates what tees you should play from?

My partner and I both started playing regularly last year when we retired and have always played off the yellow tees.
We assumed the white tees were for "good" players. Without really knowing what that meant.
We were total crap but could now probably get 28 handicaps if we got our cards signed and they precluded the usual couple of 8's.

For casual play - unless the club states a 'tee of the day' or 'play prohibited from..' you can play from any gents tee - assuming you are playing to a gents card. There may be rules prohibiting play from a ladies or junior tee. In a comp the tee to be played from will be stated and you must play from that tee. The rules cover what you do if you play from the wrong tee in a comp (matchplay and strokeplay).

As far as 'good' players being those only allowed to play from some tees - some clubs might suggest - or indeed require - you to play from a shorter tee if you are a higher handicap (they'd state the handicap above which the requirement applies) if they think players will struggle badly off some longer/harder tees.
 
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What did they score on the holes where they played from the wrong tee? If it was a stableford comp it might just be that they are not automatically DQ'd and just scored nul points on the holes in question.

I thought id missed something why everyone was saying DQ . As u say surely just scratch the holes they didn't re tee on & count the rest ..

If committee member is aware of them not only playing off the wrong tee but entering scores for them holes after being told they were wrong , they should be up before the committee for cheating
 
That's interesting comment - especially after your issue with the people marking their ball on the green and you hadn't said anything about it.

Totally different situation as was explained in detail.
Unfortunately the explanation nullifies your desire to be obtuse, hence you ignore it.
 
Totally different situation as was explained in detail.
Unfortunately the explanation nullifies your desire to be obtuse, hence you ignore it.

It was plain cheating - you knew they were marking their ball incorrectly and as a pro should have mentioned it yet bottled it - so it's irrelevant how you felt about the situation of the club - you cannot berate others for not reporting blatent cheating when you initially failed to do the same.
 
It was plain cheating - you knew they were marking their ball incorrectly and as a pro should have mentioned it yet bottled it - so it's irrelevant how you felt about the situation of the club - you cannot berate others for not reporting blatent cheating when you initially failed to do the same.

Yawn.....

pretty tiresome stuff LP. Do you not have anything else in your repitore?
 
It was plain cheating - you knew they were marking their ball incorrectly and as a pro should have mentioned it yet bottled it - so it's irrelevant how you felt about the situation of the club - you cannot berate others for not reporting blatent cheating when you initially failed to do the same.

Lol.
You're just on a wind up.
You know absolutely nothing about the situation, your view is absolutely worthless and not worth replying to.
All the info is in the thread that you got locked.
 
Lol.
You're just on a wind up.
You know absolutely nothing about the situation, your view is absolutely worthless and not worth replying to.
All the info is in the thread that you got locked.

Simple question with a yes or no answer

You are a pro - you witnessed members incorrectly marking their ball repeatedly on the green

Did you initially report or speak them about the clear rule break

Yes or no

The answer in the locked thread is no

In a thread about cheating where you pull people up for not reporting members who cheat then it's an extremely relevant point
 
Stop trolling me.. It's very boring.

It keeps his post count ticking over.

Theere'll be another post any sec along the lines of:

so you'll say you should call out cheats , but dont do it your self... etc blah blah.
 
Simple question with a yes or no answer

You are a pro - you witnessed members incorrectly marking their ball repeatedly on the green

Did you initially report or speak them about the clear rule break

Yes or no

The answer in the locked thread is no

In a thread about cheating where you pull people up for not reporting members who cheat then it's an extremely relevant point

No Pro worthy of the title would witness cheating and not call it!
 
Back on track, I still think it's worth bringing it up, irrespective of the committee member being out there. It's clearly against the rules and the fact that the player the OP knows of has scores recorded would show they've clearly submitted scores and if they were to do this regularly, there will become a time when they could potentially be in the mix and a chance of winning money/vouchers
 
Back on track, I still think it's worth bringing it up, irrespective of the committee member being out there. It's clearly against the rules and the fact that the player the OP knows of has scores recorded would show they've clearly submitted scores and if they were to do this regularly, there will become a time when they could potentially be in the mix and a chance of winning money/vouchers

I know the committee member quite well he is mailing the comp sec today, it just makes me wonder if this kind of thing goes on a lot though.

It was suggested to me this happens quite a bit in midweeks, this is mainly thought of due to some very odd scoring at times
 
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Back on track, I still think it's worth bringing it up, irrespective of the committee member being out there. It's clearly against the rules and the fact that the player the OP knows of has scores recorded would show they've clearly submitted scores and if they were to do this regularly, there will become a time when they could potentially be in the mix and a chance of winning money/vouchers
Yep agreed , just handy he was there tho ,let them deal with it now ,
Anyone can make a mistake , but once they were told & still submitted the score shows its not an accident & person/people involved have scant regard for the rules
 
Personally I think there are very few people who deliberately cheat at golf.

Most people don't know all the rules (who does?), there's probably a great many who innocently break certain rules because they've never known any different, but I would say the vast majority play as honestly as they can.
 
Personally I think there are very few people who deliberately cheat at golf.

Most people don't know all the rules (who does?), there's probably a great many who innocently break certain rules because they've never known any different, but I would say the vast majority play as honestly as they can.

There's a good chance that I break rules,I'd never knowingly do it.
But I'd never claim to know all the rules.
I only play with mates,who are as clueless as me so it's not an issue.
 
Personally I think there are very few people who deliberately cheat at golf.

Most people don't know all the rules (who does?), there's probably a great many who innocently break certain rules because they've never known any different, but I would say the vast majority play as honestly as they can.

I think we're probably all in this boat and guilty of breaking rules inadvertantly. It isn't right, and were I to be pulled would hold my hand up (providing the decision was right and not a rule myth) but in the example in the OP, playing off the yellow tees on some holes (assuming - nay guessing - these were trickier ones) is out and out cheating. Once is perhaps excusable as a lapse but several holes and then handing the cards in as valid is so wrong.
 
I think we're probably all in this boat and guilty of breaking rules inadvertantly. It isn't right, and were I to be pulled would hold my hand up (providing the decision was right and not a rule myth) but in the example in the OP, playing off the yellow tees on some holes (assuming - nay guessing - these were trickier ones) is out and out cheating. Once is perhaps excusable as a lapse but several holes and then handing the cards in as valid is so wrong.

Agree on the specific case, just giving a general observation. :)
 
Was talking to a guy who I played with for the first time last a tues, really nice guy. He plays off 17 and is frustrated that his game seems to be goin backwards.
in essence I said tell me about it. On April 4th I gave me bro £50 s worth of shop vouchers I had won for his 50th birthdays. I cashed in £53s worth week before last on stuff and won Tuesday playing with him 31 points in a Stableford (£15). Lo and behold I flipping won again on Thursday in a nine hole comp with 16 points winning on count back scoring 8 on the last three holes. Another £10-15.
quite frankly I am bogged off winning brass in varying degrees of weather and my handicap is exactly the same as when I started the season.
He then drops out a blinder. He then said well at least you have a concience. have a look at such and such a family in our club. In essence they play with no one else but themselves.
all stats off our site.
player 1, started season at 18.8 and is now 11.3 with two exceptional play reductions.
player 2, started season at 8.2 and is now 7.9. No change there.
player 3, started season at 33 and is now 25.7
player 4, started season at 27.1 and is now 17.1 with two exceptional play reductions.
player 5, started season at 19 and is now 14.9 with one exceptional play reduction.

does it bother me, not as much as flipping winning coin and havin the same hcap. But it certainly is ruffling a few feathers.
 
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