IanMcC
Well-known member
Our greenkeeper wants to change all of our yellow penalty areas to red. Anything I should be wary of here? Is it a standard practice these days?
Changing all penalty area posts to red.
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jim8flog
Journeyman Pro
One of the problems with this is how to take relief.
17.1 Options for Ball in Penalty Area
Penalty areas are defined as either red or yellow. This affects the player’s relief options (see Rule 17.1d).
I would suggest he and the committee read Rule 17 thoroughly.
17.1 Options for Ball in Penalty Area
Penalty areas are defined as either red or yellow. This affects the player’s relief options (see Rule 17.1d).
I would suggest he and the committee read Rule 17 thoroughly.
IanMcC
Well-known member
We are aware of the rule. We are also aware of the bit that says 'Committees will be given the discretion to mark all penalty areas as red so that lateral relief will always be allowed.' This initiative from our head groundsman came about chiefly from an R&A Juniors comp we held recently in the Faldo series. The referees wanted all of the penalty areas red to avoid confusion. Searching online, I see that many golf courses have taken this option, under R&A guidance. I was only wondering if any others on here have undergone similar changes.
jim8flog
Journeyman Pro
At our course we really have only one place which was and still is marked with yellow posts all other areas are red.
Still see a lot of yellows on the tours on the TV. Notably with 'greenside' water.
Still see a lot of yellows on the tours on the TV. Notably with 'greenside' water.
D
Deleted member 16999
Guest
We went to all Red Areas when the rule changed, absolutely no issues and as stated it gives people playing the course an extra option.
rulefan
Tour Winner
We have two holes where ditches run at right angles across the fairway so were previously yellow. All other water hazards were red. We decided not to incur the bother changing the yellows until the next time the posts were to be painted as the additional relief option could never be utilised. All our PAs will be red for next season.
bernix
Challenge Tour Pro
same at our club, all penalty areas changed to red penalty areas. the ones who noticed appreciated the change
Old Skier
Tour Winner
Advised by county when we hosted a county comp. Been red for a while.
louise_a
Money List Winner
We have ditches and gullies that cross most of our fairways, we have retained these has yellow staked penalty areas
SammmeBee
Journeyman Pro
When they should be red…..
rulefan
Tour Winner
Why? Lateral relief would be impracticable or unnecessary and probably time consuming to determine.
D
Deleted member 1147
Guest
Whenever we host open qualifying, Faldo series, clutch tour, women’s pga etc they make all hazards red stakes. But as soon as they leave we put them back to yellow.
SammmeBee
Journeyman Pro
Is that for all those drives spinning back into the ditches?!
rulefan
Tour Winner
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Not sure of your point
How would you take lateral relief from a PA that runs directly across the fairway regardless of which side the ball entered from?
SammmeBee
Journeyman Pro
You don’t unless there’s a bend where the ball went in. You just Chuck it down behind the ditch and carry on…..
rulefan
Tour Winner
So why did you say "When they should be red….. "?
SammmeBee
Journeyman Pro
Because they should be……hardly changing the playing characteristics of the hole is it? You’ve looked at the Rule Book I assume?!
rulefan
Tour Winner
Why waste paint if it makes no difference? See #6
Canfordhacker
Q-School Graduate
We have water in play on 14 holes, and went to all red penalty areas with the rules changes. I reckon 80% of our membership never even noticed or understood.
mikejohnchapman
Challenge Tour Pro
We went all red - no problems.
