FairwayDodger
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That's a pretty outrageous statement. Both clubs could probably do more but neither is "trading on bigotry". They are only the focal point for what is a blight on our society.
Celtic V Rangers
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That's a pretty outrageous statement. Both clubs could probably do more but neither is "trading on bigotry". They are only the focal point for what is a blight on our society.
Simbo
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Players were absolutely honking and it was a poor quality match???
Seriously?? You must have been watching a different game from the rest of the country.
Val
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Rangers deserved it yesterday without a doubt, they wanted it more than Celtic and got there in the end. Penalties are always a lottery when no team can win a game outright but that's football.
I was very surprised at how poor Celtic were yesterday, they really didnt look up for that game at all which was a surprise. Rangers on the other hand looked very assured and composed but should be kicking themselves for not managing the win in 90 or 120 mins against such a poor side.
I've seen very little of Celtic this season and on yesterdays performance I see im not missing much.
I was very surprised at how poor Celtic were yesterday, they really didnt look up for that game at all which was a surprise. Rangers on the other hand looked very assured and composed but should be kicking themselves for not managing the win in 90 or 120 mins against such a poor side.
I've seen very little of Celtic this season and on yesterdays performance I see im not missing much.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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My thoughts also - and (despite myself) I did enjoy the game - maybe that was just because Celtic played so poorly and Rangers played above themselves - made it more even and watchable (I hesitate to describe it as exciting
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Some of the stuff I have seen on social media and indeed on my own timeline from both sets of fans is shocking - so much hatred over a football match. Rangers fans goading responses and vice versa - why can't people just celebrate a victory like mature human beings
SwingsitlikeHogan
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I fear the goading from Rangers fans next season is going to be grim. A lot of them have developed a visceral hatred of just about every other Scottish club and their supporters as the clubs were seen to be complicit in the demise of Rangers , and the supporters of all of these clubs gloated, laughed and rejoiced at the demise of that once great club. Well I am afraid that, as unseemly behaviour as it was, we did - because for many years Rangers and Celtic portrayed themselves as being far too good for Scottish football, bought all decent players (with RFC using money they didn't have) to kill any chance of competing with them - and they wanted out, and still do I expect, to join a continental league if not the English League.
It's not going to be nice.
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FairwayDodger
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Yeah, it's football.
FairwayDodger
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I know many of you southerners don't really follow Scottish football and don't know about the old firm and events of the last few years. This video should make everything clear for you....
[video=youtube;Vso5gGCbeK8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vso5gGCbeK8[/video]
[video=youtube;Vso5gGCbeK8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vso5gGCbeK8[/video]
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Liverbirdie
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The clubs can try all they want (and should), but the biggest mover will be the disdain of fellow fans, or an alternative attitude coming out.
When the pack mentality shifts, it can sway the middling sorts.
FairwayDodger
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Sadly I think Rangers's absence will only have fuelled the desire to play Celtic regularly again and yesterday will only have added fuel to the fire for those supporters that seem to revel in the sheer hatred of their rivals. It will only continue into next season. While I watch the games on the TV, can those much more deeply involved either as fans of Celtic or Rangers, or of Scottish football in general, tell me why the clubs seem to do very little, to deal with this issue and with the fans. Is it something that does happen, but perhaps no longer widely mentioned in the news and social media?
ger147
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Farneyman
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Heard worse chats/songs from both Man U and Liverpool fans recently in the premiership.
In saying that there is absolutely no place for some of the sectarian bigotry associated to the old firm.
The usual small minority spoiling it for the majority.
In saying that there is absolutely no place for some of the sectarian bigotry associated to the old firm.
The usual small minority spoiling it for the majority.
ger147
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As I think I already said earlier on the thread, I just don't get where the outrage about a few songs comes from. The words of one of the songs celebrating the victory in 1690 is no worse than the lyrics to Flower of Scotland, our unofficial national anthem.
Bigotry to me is back in 1961 when my Dad joined Kelvin Hughes in Hillington as an apprentice but wasn't allowed to train as an engineer as he went to St Modan's High School. Something similar happened in reverse in Coatbridge town hall in the early 1980's i.e. the infamous green application forms. Football fans singing the Sash or the Billy Boys just isn't the same IMVHO and I personally take no offence when I hear it sung. To most of those singing it is a Rangers song and the Sash in particular is a very catchy tune.
I have many friends on both sides of the divide and some very good friends I know are still fond of singing the odd song, especially after a few sherries, but I know that it doesn't equate to them thinking any differently about me because of the school my mum and dad decided to send me to.
HankMarvin
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Raise a fair point there Val but remember Rangers were playing with only just over half their first team yesterday when they beat Celtic & it just goes to show that Celtic can't sort themselves out when out under pressure it showed yesterday. I wouldn't say Celtic played any worse than they have done all season it just took a well run team who know how to play attacking Football showed how bad they really are
HankMarvin
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Spot on well said, both side have numbers in the minority causing trouble but on the park it was down to business & the best team won.
Simbo
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The Rangers team yesterday had 4 on loan players and 6 free transfers, lee Wallace aside, the total cost of all the players on the pitch was less than 300K.
There's far worse sang at other games iv been to, but because most of the teams doing it aren't high profile like the old firm nothing gets done.
The Rangers team yesterday had 4 on loan players and 6 free transfers, lee Wallace aside, the total cost of all the players on the pitch was less than 300K.
There's far worse sang at other games iv been to, but because most of the teams doing it aren't high profile like the old firm nothing gets done.
Val
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FairwayDodger
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Just to be pedantic, Rangers didn't beat Celtic, it was a draw
Exactly! Delia's doing fine, Celtic should just keep going as they are.
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