caught cheating?

[edgey]

faldo fan,i cant believe you cannot get the script,he put a ball down apart from doing it myself i am 100% clear,i never put my foot anywhere near the ball i found i just waited for him 2 drop another as i knew he was going 2 do,if he was honest and said he couldnt find his ball i would have told him i found it but it was so obvious he was going 2 drop another because he had done it many times b4.as for me being found by the commitee for underhand tactics i would find that hard to take,as some people have said you had 2 be there

There is a problem here. If you had waited in the belief/hope he would cheat and drop a ball and then didnt it wouldnt matter whether you told him you had found the ball as his 5 minutes would have been up and he would have to return to the tee and play 3. What was your plan if this had happened? Make him play 3 off the tee?, confess you had found the ball but not told him in the hope he cheated?, allowed him to play his original even thought his 5 mins were up?

I appreciate why you were doing this but the moment you find his ball you have an obligation to advise your partner. Even if you then decide to wait and he does "find" his ball further forward you would then have an obligation to let him know he may be mistaken as you think you have found the original.

Golf is a game where we generally police the rules ourselves. I have had very similar situations my self. I hit a tee shot with a Pro V1 into heavy rough and thought i found it. One of my partners then advised me they had found another that they thought could be mine, which it was. This was a genuine error on my part and no one ever suggested it was anything other than that. I would certainly have been very offended if they had not told me until the very end, accused me of cheating, refused to sign my card and sullied my reputation at the club. Genuine errors happen and i do not (from your description) see any EVIDENCE to substantiate what happened either way.

You seem to be getting upset at the fact we are not all willing to accept your view that the end justifies the means because it quite often doesnt, sorry.

The problem of getting into a s**t throwing contest is everyone tends to catch a bit.

Edgey

 

[Parmo]

faldo fan,i cant believe you cannot get the script,he put a ball down apart from doing it myself i am 100% clear,i never put my foot anywhere near the ball i found i just waited for him 2 drop another as i knew he was going 2 do,if he was honest and said he couldnt find his ball i would have told him i found it but it was so obvious he was going 2 drop another because he had done it many times b4.as for me being found by the commitee for underhand tactics i would find that hard to take,as some people have said you had 2 be there

Why didnt you call a two shot pen once he played the wrong ball and then point him in the direction of his ball? I would have thought that be the obvious direction to sort the problem and not play with him again.

 

[Faldo_Fan]

faldo fan,i cant believe you cannot get the script,he put a ball down apart from doing it myself i am 100% clear,i never put my foot anywhere near the ball i found i just waited for him 2 drop another as i knew he was going 2 do,if he was honest and said he couldnt find his ball i would have told him i found it but it was so obvious he was going 2 drop another because he had done it many times b4.as for me being found by the commitee for underhand tactics i would find that hard to take,as some people have said you had 2 be there

I'm sorry my mistake, i thought in your original post you said you hadn't actually seen him drop the ball, i didn't realise you'd actually seen him drop the ball with your own eyes. In that case it's clear cut that what he did was incorrect and the correct procedure would have been to go back to the tee and play another......that is unless you were going to own up and tell him that you knew where his original ball was.

And for the record, it wasn't me that suggested you were standing on his ball, all i stated was that you were aware of it's location.

 

[roccokj]

Wow, there is a lot of posts on this!
What i would do is tell a friend who is confident in reporting the person, but the guy who was cheating must be reported!

 

[pokerjoke]

There are a lot of post its probably because we have all come across cheating,however im sure we all would handle it differently if we came across it,lets just hope that if any cheats have read this it will cross there mind that cheats never prosper and they will frain from tarnishing our great game.

 

[Smiffy]

Why didnt you call a two shot pen once he played the wrong ball and then point him in the direction of his ball?

Not half as much fun.
Boo hiss

 

[feary]

At the end of the day if he's a cheat, he's a cheat. He should be reported in my view.

 

[viscount17]

so many things wrong here,

1. you find 'what you believe to be' his ball but don't tell him - no rules broken as far as I know but, whatever the motives, morally and ethically wrong.

2. he 'allegedly' drops a ball - outright cheating if true.

3. you don't report it to the committee but 'gossip' about it - even if to one person. it's your place to report it, no-one else can do it for you.

he may well have been a cheat and needed to be 'outed' but there's nothing heroic in your actions.

 

[evahakool]

Good to see so much interest in this post,where cheating is roundly condemmed.Not like football where its the norm. now.