Can You Hate Someone You've Never Met?

[Dave3498]

I hate somebody called Phillips. I've never met him/her but he/she has somehow managed to convert all useful slotted head screws into something called 'Phillips Head.'

I now need an array of little bits to fit all these new screws, none of which do fit, and consequently I finish up with round hole in the top of the screw which is useless to remove it, or screw it in.

What was wrong with the old slotted heads?

 

[madandra]

I work for a tool company and I am quite happy with the pozi and other varieties of screw as it means I sell more screw drivers ... Ka-ching . Perhaps it was the birth of power tools that forced them to come up with a design that stopped the driver slipping out at high RPM.

 

[haplesshacker]

I believe that the Pozi and Phillips was developed to enable more torque to be added to the screwing of the screw due to extra contact area of the screwdriver in the screw head. I've not Googled it, so I could be wrong.

Chewed up screw heads has more to do with the cheap material used in the manufactering of a lot of screws. Though it obviously helps to use the correct cross head screwdriver. Though I can never remember which is which!!!

 

[RGDave]

You should try Torx Dave!

I prepared to remove the door trims from my Beemer only to discover you need a T10 or T15 Torx driver.

I hate Phillips as well. Some newer screw heads are probably pozidrive anyway. Umm....QI fact.....Phillips are behind pozidrive too!!! Ba******

What's it all about.....I don't know. Last time I got grief from screws (Honda air-filter box) I just took 'em out with a big-bad-boy drill....that'll teach 'em......

 

[nomadpaul]

Torx 20 on our Bosch/Siemens appliances are the dogs dooglies . No slippage of the screwdriver bit is a godsend

....and most screwdriver/drill bit sets have a torx 20 bit in them these days

 

[viscount17]

you should have tried working on aircraft over the last 30 - 40 years, just about every one came out with a new version of a threaded fastener.

The Phantom had a real 4-x, looked like a normal slot but 'waisted' - the number of those that were knackered, an American Navy guy called Finch invented a tool specifically to get the jammed ones out.
The Lynx came out with Tri-wings, the Sea King used just about everything somewhere or other - nightmare!

(ps 'threaded fastener' because there are as many arguments over when is a screw a bolt (and vice-versa) as there are fixings)

 

[Herbie]

What you need is TOOL MULTI PURPOSE FINE ADJUSING like my golden example below.I use this only on special jobs

 

[Dave3498]

No one can deny that you have to use an extraordinary amount of to force to keep the bit in the hole, whether screwing in or withdrawing. Otherwise the bit just spins and makes a round hole. It's the sloping sides of the socket that's the problem. Why not just have a parallel socket like say an allen socket?