Can someone reccomend me a ball?

[bobmac]

The ProV1 lake balls are only £12.99 a dozen or £22 for 2 dozen.
Ive used them all over the winter and have found absolutely no difference between them and a new one.

 

[minty18]

Bob I've be warned off lake balls before, been told that they lose performance, I dont mind giving them a go if you think it'd be a good idea.

 

[bobmac]

Bob I've be warned off lake balls before, been told that they lose performance, I dont mind giving them a go if you think it'd be a good idea.

As I said I have found no difference between new and lake balls. Give them a try and decide for yourself

 

[minty18]

will do mate.

 

[brendy]

Make sure they are not refurbs though, AG have sold refurbed lake balls before, while there may not be any bad intent to dupe customers, they peel very quickly and just dont feel the same as normal pro v's or pro v lakeballs.

 

[Parmo]

In my humble opinion, the Prov1 is the best ball in the market for performance, spin and durability (compared to the old Tour 90 and 100, they were rubbish).
Why is it then that people use other inferior balls, is it just personal preference?

The Pro V1 ball is the worst ball for durability as they last mostly less than a round before getting cut up imho.

I think most amateurs don't need a three piece ball, average swing speed golfers only need a two piece as their swing speed does not compress the core of a three piece ball, so imho 3 piece is a waste of time and usually the golfer will hit a cracking drive only to see it drop from the sky 20 yards short of their normal distance (due to the core not compressing) though the short game benefits are there, but so are the two piece softer balls.

I think the Pro V is very over priced as with most premium balls, I think the most I would pay is £30 and nothing over that and it all depends on how many I am losing and the budget I have. I just think £35 for a dozen is daft money, maybe if they didn’t give tens of thousands away as freebies for pros to either play with or practice with (or to keep the price of them down in the USA) then the price might reflect an honest price of between £25-£30 a dozen.

 

[haplesshacker]

Minty.

I've started going through the lose ball bins at the golf course pro shop. You won't find many Pro V1s but DX2s, AD333s, ZURSs, PTS Solos etc. I just have a dig and pick out what I want. The good thing is that you can inspect them and ditch the ones that just don't look or feel right. It give the opportunity to try many difffernt types of ball without the expense.

It also gets round the issue of shiny new boxes in the cupboard that the Mrs can moan about!!

 

[Deleted member 1147]

I had a box of Bridgestones (can't remember the model but they were in a blue box). Spun alot and my lob wedge ripped them up as much as it does the Pro V1s.

But I'm back on Pro V1s now and plan on staying with them.

 

[GB72]

Never used a ProV for the 3 reasons suggested on here:

1. Cost: £20 a dozen is the max I will pay.
2. Spin: Was always told that they would make any hook or slice worse.
3. Swing Speed: Always thought that a speed in the region of 95mph was needed to get the performance out of a ProV.

 

[golf_bug]

I find this thread quite interesting.
When watching the guys on tour, not all but alot of them use ProV1s.
Why is then that amateurs dont copy them and use all sorts of pick ups.
I thought perhaps its the price but then a dozen Prov1 lake balls are cheaper than a dozen new AD333s.
Is it because they think they will spin more, therefor their slice or hook will be exagerated?
In my humble opinion, the Prov1 is the best ball in the market for performance, spin and durability (compared to the old Tour 90 and 100, they were rubbish).
Why is it then that people use other inferior balls, is it just personal preference?

Because Pro V1 lake balls are inconsistent quality and the new ones are flippin expensive! Club golfers in general are not good enough to get the full benefits of premium balls in my opinion.
A compromise may be the Pro V1 practise balls (stamped with 'practise' on them, used at pro event ranges). They are cheaper than the real thing, but essentially the same ball. BUT, they are still more expensive than something like Wilson DX2 or Srixon AD333.

Back to the original Op, I have been using Wilson PX3 Soft balls and to be honest, I prefer the cheaper DX2s. I have tried lots of balls over the past year and I have to say the Wilson DX2s are great value.

 

[TonyN]

Minty, to go back to your O.P, I would give the thumbs up to the 333's as Homer says, they are a great middle ground ball. They are desinged for low spin off the driver so would fit the bill there. They also have a reasonable amount of feel around the greens and would pull up fairly decent with approaches. For the price I find they are the best ball in that area of the market, they dont cut up as quickly as others.

Bob, to answer your question, for me, its all about cost. I would love to play the best ball out there, the one that spins the most as our greens are becoming very difficult to hold. But I simply cannot justify paying £37 for 12 balls, its simply daylight robbery and nothing else.

I bought some of the new Srixon Z stars because I can no longer get the z-urs (i was paying £19 a dozen for them). They were on offer at £29 and based on the the reviews from here, I had to try them. Not used them yet but on the way home I was quite angry at what I had just paid, so I just hope they are worth it.

 

[minty18]

Thanks lads, loads of great answers.

Going to AG on the way to the golf course tonight so i'll let you know what I buy.

 

[Parmo]

They are desinged for low spin off the driver so would fit the bill there.

Sorry but the AD333 is not a driver low spin ball

 

[minty18]

Now i'm confused!

Right i'm going for the bridgestones and as my club stocks them i'll ask my pro what bridgestones he thinks will be best for me.

Surely Bridgestone know more about rubber than all the other golf brands put together......

BUT Dunlop have made tyres for years and they still make rubbish golf balls.

 

[Herbie]

I find this thread quite interesting.
When watching the guys on tour, not all but alot of them use ProV1s.
Why is then that amateurs dont copy them and use all sorts of pick ups.
I thought perhaps its the price but then a dozen Prov1 lake balls are cheaper than a dozen new AD333s.
Is it because they think they will spin more, therefor their slice or hook will be exagerated?
In my humble opinion, the Prov1 is the best ball in the market for performance, spin and durability (compared to the old Tour 90 and 100, they were rubbish).
Why is it then that people use other inferior balls, is it just personal preference?

With me its just cos I am cheap and dont feel things like I used to Bob, though if I still had all my physical attributes I would be using proVs and I think there is a lot of value in your observations on the subject.

 

[thecraw]

Very sweeping statement Bob.

Tits may be the best on the market in your opinion however I prefer the Srixon balls, I prefer the feel from it off of the clubface and putter face. The TM Red LDP is another ball which feels great off of the putter face again in my opinion. Tits for me feel too soft and putty like, and the Pro V1x jumps off the face.

That is just my opinion and I dont use the new Z-STAR because Vijay or Henrik use it, I use it because I like it and the way it performs.

 

[TonyN]

They are desinged for low spin off the driver so would fit the bill there.

Sorry but the AD333 is not a driver low spin ball

Parmo, not looking for an argument but, I have just dragged these over from srixons official website.

''The AD333 is powered by Srixon's proprietary super-soft Energetic Gradient Growth core which is firmer on the outside and gets progressively softer towards the centre. It delivers the optimal launch conditions - high launch angle with low spin.''

''Newly developed soft Pana-Tetra® blended cover for a higher launch angle and low spin for straighter shots with long carry.''

Granted, its not THEE lowest spinnig ball off the driver face, but its not the best ball on the market either. You get what you pat for.

Designed for swing speeds of 80+mph.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Got to agree with TonyN. Its not the lowest driver spin ball but it will do a reasonable job both with the big dog and the wedges and putter. It may feel a tad firm with the putter but I didn't find it overly so and I have a firm face (AGSI on my itsy bitsy).

In my opinion it is a reasonable compromise and I'm sure there are still the 2008 version of the AD333 out there which should be cheaper now Srixon have launched the latest version

 

[Parmo]

An argument I am not looking for, I just thought the Trispeed would be best suited as a lower driver spin ball with a harder feel, was all I was saying.

Though the AD333 is a great ball.

In my opinion it is a reasonable compromise and I'm sure there are still the 2008 version of the AD333 out there which should be cheaper now Srixon have launched the latest version

Srixon didnt update the AD333 for 2009, the same with the Trispeed & Ladies. I think 2010 they will change them both and keep the new Zstar, distance & soft feel

 

[TonyN]

Am I right in thinking that the Z-star is just a direct replacement of the Z-urs and Z-star x a replacement of Z-urc?

Parmo, not tried trispeed but I was under the impresion that the AD333 was the softest srixon ball before the premiums and the O.P wanted something that spins.

As for Warbirds spinning, forget it. Even the 333's dont spin anywhere near a as much as Prov1's Z-urs, Zstars, warbirds are as hard as stones.

If you like the Callaway brand though, I used to use the Big Bertha balls because they were softer than warbirds and spun more. Dont think you can get them any more as they have brought out Big Bertha Diablo's which I think will have replaced them. These may be worth a look. Clicky

On a similar note, If the Z-star I have just bought are no good, I will be buying Callaways premium ball, The Tour i, we all know that the revolutionary ProV1 was the making of callaway and I think this ball might just be worth a look. Clicky