FairwayDodger
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Regardless of how you might like to spin it that isn't the only example, as I'm sure you are well aware.
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Regardless of how you might like to spin it that isn't the only example, as I'm sure you are well aware.
SocketRocket
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Asking a question whether it matters is not making a statement that it doesn't, it's asking the poster to explain why it matters.
Also, you now appear to be speaking on behalf of 'everyone', if you want a proper debate thats fine, if not don't revert to that type of comment please.
bluewolf
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Splitting hairs again. If you can't discuss this properly, then please don't make the comments. See how easy that is? Debate, or argue. The choice is yours.
SocketRocket
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Whats up with people on here at the moment. If you disagree you are accused of 'Spin' If that's not the racism you refer to then I don't know what you're talking about. Maybe you could explain rather than suggest I am being obtuse.
SocketRocket
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I am trying to debate but not getting far as I am accused of splitting hairs now. I started this by asking a question to someone else. You seem to want to interject and muddy the waters. If you don't have anything to debate and the OP wont reply then theres nothing much left to debate. Unless you have something relevant to the Boris discussion.
Blue in Munich
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It's the dismissive tone of the "question" that is the problem. There were plenty of ways of asking but yet you chose that one. Just as you again choose to be patronising in your instruction as to how you see fit for the discussion to continue. If you actually wanted a debate with Capella you could have asked her why she thought Boris an odd choice, rather than the post you made.
FairwayDodger
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You seem unable to discuss any point now without having a go. Which is a shame. Johnson's racist remarks are well documented so my mentioning them should be uncontroversial. I think he's unsuitable to be foreign secretary, that's my opinion, which you are welcome to disagree with.
It may surprise you to learn that I'd also like our country to succeed so I think we should give ourselves the best chance to do so. Having this man as our top foreign diplomat doesn't seem the right way to do that.
bluewolf
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Ive made my contribution to the Boris debate. I just don't like unnecessary condescension. You were rude and abrupt with someone who's opinion you didn't like.
My contribution to this, and every other political thread is now over. I prefer to talk in person, rather than via a keyboard anyway.
SocketRocket
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If you find someone asking a valid question condescending, rude and abrupt then thats up to you and I am tired of repeating that point. You have decided to keep making it without justifying the accusation so I wont ask you to again as it seems pointless. As we don't have a reasonable option to talk in person and the forums raison d'être is for people to debate at distance then it's keyboard or as you chose; nothing. I hold no grudge due you having a different opinion though.
SocketRocket
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FD, I'm not having a go. I was asking you to elaborate on your remark that he has been racist, I guess I could google the history of what he's said but I thought it would be easier for you to explain.
rosecott
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You will pay for that - you know it's true.
FairwayDodger
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I don't really want to go over the specifics here as I thought it was pretty common knowledge. I'm not even saying he is a racist, just that he has a tendency to blurt out whatever nonsense comes into his head and on a number of ocassions that is quite politically incorrect (that's the kind spin incidentally). Google it if you like and come back if you don't think that's fair comment.
Obviously I dislike the man but the broader point is that, other than PM, I can't think of a government role to which he is less suited than foreign secretary. Appointing him raises questions about Theresa May's judgement. All in my opinion of course.
MarkE
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As i've said, I think Boris will do well. But let's be honest, he may be foreign secretary but that role is rather diminished in this particular Government. Davis is head of the Brexit and Fox International trade so there's it's not all left to Boris. I see him as the wing man to the other two, providing support.
FairwayDodger
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Time will tell, marke.
Capella
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Oops, that discussion escalated quickly 
In my personal oppiona, Boris Johnson is a total tool and should not be let anywhere near politics, but that really does not matter ... I am not even British, so I have absolutely no say in the matter. The oppinion of the German public (and I doubt it is limited to Germany) as a whole might matter a little bit, though, because it seems unwise to make someone foreign minister who is not taken seriously by the countries he has to deal with.
But he seems to be good at lying ... eh ... I mean "diplomacy", so maybe he is the right man for the job.
In my personal oppiona, Boris Johnson is a total tool and should not be let anywhere near politics, but that really does not matter ... I am not even British, so I have absolutely no say in the matter. The oppinion of the German public (and I doubt it is limited to Germany) as a whole might matter a little bit, though, because it seems unwise to make someone foreign minister who is not taken seriously by the countries he has to deal with.
But he seems to be good at lying ... eh ... I mean "diplomacy", so maybe he is the right man for the job.
bobmac
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SocketRocket
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Oops, that discussion escalated quickly
In my personal oppiona, Boris Johnson is a total tool and should not be let anywhere near politics, but that really does not matter ... I am not even British, so I have absolutely no say in the matter. The oppinion of the German public (and I doubt it is limited to Germany) as a whole might matter a little bit, though, because it seems unwise to make someone foreign minister who is not taken seriously by the countries he has to deal with.
But he seems to be good at lying ... eh ... I mean "diplomacy", so maybe he is the right man for the job.
If you are looking for Politicians to ridicule then Germany have had a few worth considering, just like about every country.
CheltenhamHacker
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You're doing really really well at accepting even the slightest hint of criticism.
Capella
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Absolutely. I would never deny that. Does anyone remember Lübke? The mentioning of his name alone still makes most Germans cringe in vicarious embarrassment. And he was our president, for god's sake (thankfully, most foreigners don't even know that we have a president, since his actual political power and influence is minimal). In the German dubbing of the cartoon series DangerMouse, the character of Penfold was called Lübke (yes, they actually named him after the president, that's how bad he was).
Crazyface
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Mrs May is starting off in Top Gear!!!! Unbelieveable appointments and sackings. Shocked to see that bloke Nicky Morgan removed. LM doo dahhs O
Appointing Boris to such high office is a brilliant move. Giving him a top role, which is what he wants, and a job where he's gonna have to behave himself.
Appointing Boris to such high office is a brilliant move. Giving him a top role, which is what he wants, and a job where he's gonna have to behave himself.
