Brois Johnson - oh dear

[Foxholer]

Number on 'the' Bus came from a Government department - Boris did not supply the text or paint the Bus and neither did he calculate the number. The supplementary statement did not say the number would all be spent on the NHS it merely said more money would be potentially available.

He was not the only politician to 'selectively' quote or enhance the numbers to make their case on both sides of the argument.

Re the Number on the Bus...While the number may have come from a Government, its use in the claim has been described by the UK Statistics Authority as 'a clear misuse of official statistics'! It did not make an adjustment for the Rebate negotiated by Thatcher.

So 'Does UK send £350M/week to EU?' Absolutely not!

So I stand by my 'original' description of the statement as a 'blatant lie!'.

Here's the link that shows 'the facts' https://fullfact.org/europe/350-million-week-boris-johnson-statistics-authority-misuse/

 

[gmc40]

There were two - one on the bus and one on the Vote Leave campaign billboard...and Johnson stood or sat in front of both. Fact.

https://jonworth.eu/the-two-versions-of-the-350-million-for-the-nhs-slogan/

I know that. I’m just waiting for the statement drdel is referring to? The one that states “more money may be potentially available” lol!

Straight out of Boris book of being economical with the truth.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I think he will be very good at the job, lets see how he gets on before vilifying him.

He was was he not. Excellent experience; top negotiating skills and delivery demonstrated; built great relationships in the EU and across the world - just what we need on the CV of our to be PM.

 

[SocketRocket]

He was was he not. Excellent experience; top negotiating skills and delivery demonstrated; built great relationships in the EU and across the world - just what we need on the CV of our to be PM.

My post you just quoted was made three years ago relating to him being newly appointed as Foreign Secretary

 

[IanM]

Even "Full Fact" (hardly a bastion of impartiality) says it is £350m a week gross and £250 million net of rebate. (loose change down the back of a sofa!)

The ONS NET figure is £267m. (2016) So don't know where they got £250m from.

Anyway the Bill is £350 - the rebate changes and can be given away. Corbyn almost certainly will if he gets in.

So...Boris used the Gross figure as one of convenience. Not exactly a lie in the context of Corbyn lying about whose funerals he was photographed at.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I could not resist this one.

'So the next PM will be a man who is called the C word by mistake and the man who is called the C word deliberately' [#Fosh]

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

My post you just quoted was made three years ago relating to him being newly appointed as Foreign Secretary

Fortunately we can change our minds over something we thought three yrs ago...

 

[Kellfire]

Oh dear Boris. Didn’t get off her, eh?

 

[SocketRocket]

Fortunately we can change our minds over something that we thought three yrs ago...

Its completly out of context.

 

[User62651]

Oh dear Boris. Didn’t get off her, eh?

Surprised the right wing press are all over this too. Boris starting to self defeat?

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Straight fight between Gove and Hunt now.







Probably.

 

[Swinglowandslow]

Straight fight between Gove and Hunt now.







Probably.

What are you on about?
Gove is out. The MPs votes decided that. Seems you don't know the system..

 

[drdel]

I know that. I’m just waiting for the statement drdel is referring to? The one that states “more money may be potentially available” lol!

Straight out of Boris book of being economical with the truth.

Do your research. It is the UK's gross liability based on GDP. There are variable rebates that can obviously change. Self evidently if the EU liability reduces there is the potential to redirect.

 

[gmc40]

Do your research. It is the UK's gross liability based on GDP. There are variable rebates that can obviously change. Self evidently if the EU liability reduces there is the potential to redirect.

I don’t know what comment you are responding to but it isn’t mine?

Have a read through the posts again, in order, and you will understand what I am referring to.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Johnson's new campaign song.

Running Scared by Roy Orbison.

 

[SocketRocket]

Johnson's new campaign song.

Running Scared by Roy Orbison.

Yours: Let the wind blow high let the wind blow low.

 

[drdel]

As the front runner he has nothing to gain by a TV slanging match designed by the broadcaster to be a spectacle. Obviously his private life would be dragged up for titilation and serve only to embarrass his partner.

If he is wise he will stay quiet and not dignify these dressed up, stage managed entertainment events. The Tory members are the voters not the public, we get to express our opinions when the GE comes around.

Hunt calling him a coward is School playground stuff which has reduced his (Hunt's) standing in my eyes

 

[MegaSteve]

As the front runner he has nothing to gain by a TV slanging match designed by the broadcaster to be a spectacle. Obviously his private life would be dragged up for titilation and serve only to embarrass his partner.

If he is wise he will stay quiet and not dignify these dressed up, stage managed entertainment events. The Tory members are the voters not the public, we get to express our opinions when the GE comes around.

Hunt calling him a coward is School playground stuff which has reduced his (Hunt's) standing in my eyes

Believe his constituents would still like some explanation as to why he went AWOL when he should have been in Westminster putting their case...

 

[rudebhoy]

So Boris won't discuss his private life as he doesn't want to drag his "loved ones" into the public arena, yet his campaign team are happy to leak a stage-managed lovey-dovey picture to the press?

his hypocrisy is off the scale!

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I desperately hope Johnson recovers from his little mishap and wins the Tory and Ex Unionist election.

https://stv.tv/news/politics/1438745-majority-would-back-independence-if-boris-johnson-became-pm/