British Masters 2015

[Deleted member 15344]

The Johnnie Walker was an event on the ET since 1999 - it was on hold for one year whilst Ryder Cup was hosted but has now been cancelled

So we have one yes golf event to watch this year than we have in the previous years

 

[Dan2501]

We have the same as last year despite it not being a Ryder Cup year. One more than 2013. One more than 2012. One more than 2011. The last time we had 7 events was another Ryder Cup year, 2010. So they've actually upped the number of events in the UK compared with a standard non-Ryder Cup year. We don't have any less events to watch than any other year.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Ok I'm guess that you will include the Irish Open now but didn't early in ensure the stats point to more events

The Irish Open is on the ET and always has been - the fact it's now in N Ireland for this year is just symantics really

Either way it's looked at - for the people in UK and Ireland to watch live golf we have one less event

Two established events in the ET have gone - Welsh Open and Johnnie Walker - one has come in for this year - British Masters.

We can manipulate stats etc etc but we have less events with the shores or our two islands and less events within the shores of GB , less events in Wales , one more in Scotland , less in England - overall - less events

 

[Dan2501]

Even with the Irish Open being counted as in the UK when not, we've only had more tournaments than 2015 in Ryder Cup years. Every other non Ryder-Cup year has had 6 or 7 events in the UK. How many do we have this year? 7. You can try and skew the numbers however you want, but there are 7 events in the UK this year, the same or better than every other non-Ryder Cup year.

 

[Tongo]

Even with the Irish Open being counted as in the UK when not, we've only had more tournaments than 2015 in Ryder Cup years. Every other non Ryder-Cup year has had 6 or 7 events in the UK. How many do we have this year? 7. You can try and skew the numbers however you want, but there are 7 events in the UK this year, the same or better than every other non-Ryder Cup year.

I tend to agree with Phil. You either include the Irish Open each year or not. The fact its gone north of the border is almost irrelevant as golf in Ireland is run by one body and anyone wishing to watch the tourney from GB would require a trip by plane or boat whether its in the north or the republic. So it doesnt matter where on the island it is played.

 

[Dan2501]

But it's irrelevant. Even if you include the Irish every year, there's never been more than 7 events in the UK and Ireland in a non-Ryder Cup year.

 

[Tongo]

But it's irrelevant. Even if you include the Irish every year, there's never been more than 7 events in the UK and Ireland in a non-Ryder Cup year.

Yes, it is. Especially as Phil's original point was regarding the dearth of events in the Midlands which certainly appears the case at the moment. However, bearing in mind how difficult it is to secure sponsorship and the top players at the moment its hardly surprising that those behind the resurrection of the BM have decided to host it an area close to the capital. It aint great, but i would guess that it hasnt been easy getting the BM back off of the ground as there appears to be a goal to keep this event in the ET calendar rather than it just being a flash in the pan.

 

[mhwgc]

That's the point I was trying to make

We have lost three events this year already across the country -

They have been replaced by a Matchplay in Scotland and another event near London

There is a vast empty space in the middle with no major golf event - no wider audience to help grow the game etc

I'm not sure you can class Milton Keynes as near London - it's midway between Birmingham and London!

 

[patricks148]

I'm not sure you can class Milton Keynes as near London - it's midway between Birmingham and London!

Take it from me its near London, but then for me so is Leeds:rofl:

 

[Hickory_Hacker]

Who is changing it ?

I'm not sure if it was your gob or your brain talking about this so called rota ... You can't and never will change zip but it looks like the Scottish Open does quite well without being involved in a British Masters thread.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I'm not sure if it was your gob or your brain talking about this so called rota ... You can't and never will change zip but it looks like the Scottish Open does quite well without being involved in a British Masters thread.

Eh ? What are you talking about ?

No one has suggested changing anything to do with the Scottish Open ?

 

[HomerJSimpson]

The biggest issue I can see with the four pros being co hosts is that the event will move from course to course and it will struggle to get an identity. I understand the argument about making it accessible but if an event was held somewhere decent like Woburn and allowed to grow I think it would attract more interest and sponsors. You look at many events on both the European and particularly the PGA tour and they tend to have the same venue. It becomes familiar to the TV viewers and sponsors know when (more or less) when it'll be in the calendar

 

[Val]

The biggest issue I can see with the four pros being co hosts is that the event will move from course to course and it will struggle to get an identity. I understand the argument about making it accessible but if an event was held somewhere decent like Woburn and allowed to grow I think it would attract more interest and sponsors. You look at many events on both the European and particularly the PGA tour and they tend to have the same venue. It becomes familiar to the TV viewers and sponsors know when (more or less) when it'll be in the calendar

Very true Homer. Lots of events mainly on the PGA tour are well known as sponsors events

Dunhill links
BMW PGA
Honda Classic
Bridgestone Invitational
John Deer Classic
Shell Houston Open

And lets not forget, the FedEx cup

In fact, now having a check most events on the PGA tour are know by their sponsors name.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Very true Homer. Lots of events mainly on the PGA tour are well known as sponsors events

Dunhill links
BMW PGA
Honda Classic
Bridgestone Invitational
John Deer Classic
Shell Houston Open

And lets not forget, the FedEx cup

In fact, now having a check most events on the PGA tour are know by their sponsors name.

Has it made a difference to the Scottish Open ? Has moved around a few courses but appears some call it Aberdeen Asset ?

Irish Open has also moved around a few places.

 

[Val]

Has it made a difference to the Scottish Open ? Has moved around a few courses but appears some call it Aberdeen Asset ?

Irish Open has also moved around a few places.

I'll be honest and say I've never heard it called that till you mentioned it, and i had never heard it called the Barclays previously. It's the Scottish Open, chances are the British Masters will always be that

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I'll be honest and say I've never heard it called that till you mentioned it, and i had never heard it called the Barclays previously. It's the Scottish Open, chances are the British Masters will always be that

I hadnt heard it also until recently and even in this thread it was called that

Hope the British Masters stays like that

 

[guest100718]

Isnt it the Benson and hedges......

 

[Tongo]

Very true Homer. Lots of events mainly on the PGA tour are well known as sponsors events

Dunhill links
BMW PGA
Honda Classic
Bridgestone Invitational
John Deer Classic
Shell Houston Open

And lets not forget, the FedEx cup

In fact, now having a check most events on the PGA tour are know by their sponsors name.

I would say that some of the events on the PGA tour have lost a bit of their identity cos of the sponsors though. For instance, i had to check what the Crowne Plaza Invitational translated as in old money: the Colonial.

Humana Challenge = Bob Hope Classic
Wyndham Championship = Greater Greensboro Open

So, for me, it works both ways.

 

[patricks148]

I'll be honest and say I've never heard it called that till you mentioned it, and i had never heard it called the Barclays previously. It's the Scottish Open, chances are the British Masters will always be that

Me either The Scottish open as far as im aware has always been called the Scottish open. it was sponsored by Barclays Capitol while at Loch Lomond and the first two years it was at CS.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Me either The Scottish open as far as im aware has always been called the Scottish open. it was sponsored by Barclays Capitol while at Loch Lomond and the first two years it was at CS.

Originally, at Loch Lomond, sponsored by Standard Life.