Brexit Two Months On

[SocketRocket]

It should be easy for you to name 10 of these companies then.....without of course going to your usual source.

I am an Engineer and worked for many years in the CadCam Software industry. Many of our products were used by Tool making companies to assist with designing and manufacturing things like injection molding and press tools. We had a distributor in Glenrothes and another in Glasgow who had a great number of customers that manufactured tooling and indeed parts for the UK Motor Industries. We also had joint research projects with Heriot Watt University on Automatic Feature recognition.

It would be unprofessional for me to list company names so I wont but I suspect you have no experience of the industry.

 

[PhilTheFragger]

I see that the Gov of the BoE may be announcing his resignation as soon as Thursday amid claims he is sorely embarrassed to get his dire predictions of gloom and despair so badly wrong. GDP up 0.5% and shares at their highest for years.

Also, the head of the WTO is predicting good things for the UK economy as it will no longer be called to support failing banks that are tied to the Euro. He recommends a quick exit, before the Deutche bank needs bailing out.

Funny, even as I read this the radio news is telling me he plans to stay longer than his original intentions.

Just announced that he is leaving in June 2019

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I don't. The referendum result should be acted upon to the wishes of the majority. If the result had gone the other way, i'm sure Remainers would be clamouring to retain their pro-eu fixations and ignore the wishes of the Leavers.
Why don't you all just get over it. You lost the referendum so get on with it and stop whining.:sbox:

Jeez - how many times do I have to say I have accepted that we are leaving the EU. And asking questions is not moaning or whining - I suppose it is an easy reposte to hide behind.

For example - the website that @SR gave us the link to (that apparently details the Leave manifesto) does not even mention leaving the single market - it is therefore absolutely clear to me that leavers could not have voted for the UK to leave it. And yet @SR moans at me for being picky LOL

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Just announced that he is leaving in June 2019

Having done all he can to make the UKs EU exit as painless as possible and likely failing he'll just say 'well hell mend them'

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Having done all he can to make the UKs EU exit as painless as possible and likely failing he'll just say 'well hell mend them'

Or alternatively he could be looking back upon his pre-Referendum warnings and thinking "Jeez I got that wrong!"

Certainly, just at the moment, his credibility has taken a bashing.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I am an Engineer and worked for many years in the CadCam Software industry. Many of our products were used by Tool making companies to assist with designing and manufacturing things like injection molding and press tools. We had a distributor in Glenrothes and another in Glasgow who had a great number of customers that manufactured tooling and indeed parts for the UK Motor Industries. We also had joint research projects with Heriot Watt University on Automatic Feature recognition.

It would be unprofessional for me to list company names so I wont but I suspect you have no experience of the industry.

Why would it be 'unprofessional' to name a few company names.?
You were the one claiming there were 'many'.
So far only one then.
I have never heard of them, do they employ a strong Scottish workforce?

 

[NWJocko]

Is it just a coincidence then that there are 34 car manufacturing plants in the UK and that they are all situated in England.

Why do you think that is the case?

 

[PhilTheFragger]

How about you lot stop trying to score cheap points off each other, it's getting boring.
And change the title as its 3 months plus now

 

[chrisd]

How about you lot stop trying to score cheap points off each other, it's getting boring.
And change the title as its 3 months plus now

Don't you start moaning about the titles as well sunshine!!

 

[Old Skier]

Having done all he can to make the UKs EU exit as painless as possible and likely failing he'll just say 'well hell mend them'

So you who have accepted that you lost are now saying that the whole things going to fail. I presume you predict the score before you go out for a round of golf. Two's up with the crystal ball.

 

[Old Skier]

So far only one then?

Two without even trying, why you so down on the manufacturing industry in Scotland. You really must try harder or your poodle living down south will run out of things to repeat for you.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

So you who have accepted that you lost are now saying that the whole things going to fail. I presume you predict the score before you go out for a round of golf. Two's up with the crystal ball.

No I didn't - I absolutely hope Brexit is a roaring success. I want this to succeed for my children and grand-children - and everyone else who will otherwise suffer from a failure. And for that reason i will argue for the best possible exit - regardless of what hard-line Brexiteers might themselves argue for. And for starters that means staying in the single market - somehow.

 

[Foxholer]

Re: Brexit More Than Two Months On

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And change the title as its 3 months plus now

Er..You are one of the power to do so!

 

[Old Skier]

Re: Brexit More than Two Months On

And for starters that means staying in the single market - somehow.

In your opinion. In my opinion a free trade agreement with everyone away from a failing EU is a better option.

 

[Foxholer]

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There are no whiskey businesses in Scotland.
If you mean whisky businesses, most are hundreds of years old.

BTW..........Hillman Imp....probably too young to remember:lol:

FWIW. The reason the term 'Whiskey' was used for the Irish product was to differentiate it from the 'low quality' product that was being made in Scotland at the time!

Likewise, British (Linwood/Scotland) versions of the Imp were notoriously poorly built! New Zealand versions were actually better! They were shipped CKD and assembled by experienced car assemblers (Todds) - as opposed to ship builders! Industrial relations in the UK car industry were pretty poor at the time too!

Similar actually happened with rover 3500s. The Kiwi assembled ones were more desirable because a purpose built assembly factory was established (in Nelson). I can confirm from personal experience that they were noticeably better built! Great engine for a US reject though!

 

[Foxholer]

Re: Brexit More than Two Months On

And for starters that means staying in the single market - somehow.

In your opinion. In my opinion a free trade agreement with everyone away from a failing EU is a better option.

Er...Both would be even better - irrespective of the argument about whether EU is failing or not!

 

[SocketRocket]

Jeez - how many times do I have to say I have accepted that we are leaving the EU. And asking questions is not moaning or whining - I suppose it is an easy reposte to hide behind.

For example - the website that @SR gave us the link to (that apparently details the Leave manifesto) does not even mention leaving the single market - it is therefore absolutely clear to me that leavers could not have voted for the UK to leave it. And yet @SR moans at me for being picky LOL

For crying out load, you are difficult. I only gave you that link as you had suggested that 'Leave' had given NO plan or suggestions on what they wanted from Brexit. You now start using it as their Tablet of Stone' Commandments, it was just an example of the many publications on how the UK could be better out the EU.

How can staying in the Single Market if it comes with Freedom of Movement, EU Law, Full membership Contributions, no freedom to make our own trade agreements etc be possible, that would not be leaving or what we all voted for. If the EU want to offer the Single Market without the restrictions then fine but can you see that happening?

 

[Foxholer]

How can staying in the Single Market if it comes with Freedom of Movement, EU Law, Full membership Contributions, no freedom to make our own trade agreements etc be possible, that would not be leaving or what we all voted for. If the EU want to offer the Single Market without the restrictions then fine but can you see that happening?

It has just done pretty much exactly that with Canada! And is in the process of doing so with US!

As you have stated so often in the past, UK is a net importer of EU products - German cars being the obvious example! It's in EU's interest to have free trade with UK - though more-so for UK to have free trade with EU! The key for any negotiations is convincing the EU that a simple free trade agreement is worth having - without the 'shackles' of free movement of people!

 

[SocketRocket]

It has just done pretty much exactly that with Canada! And is in the process of doing so with US!

As you have stated so often in the past, UK is a net importer of EU products - German cars being the obvious example! It's in EU's interest to have free trade with UK - though more-so for UK to have free trade with EU! The key for any negotiations is convincing the EU that a simple free trade agreement is worth having - without the 'shackles' of free movement of people!

I agree but there is the Brexit punishment issue.

 

[Foxholer]

I agree but there is the Brexit punishment issue.

You are thinking negatively - a very 'British' approach!

As I posted, it's up to the negotiators - even separately to the actual Brexit deal - to stress the positives for both sides! Though it's very much more in UK's interest to get a deal than the EU's (45% of exports compared with about 10%), so it won't be easy!