Brexit Two Months On

[FairwayDodger]

Well most of us that we wanted to Remain, how wrong were we.. I would not be surprised if the Indy Ref wins this time and they lower the voting age to 7 to achieve it. Let them go.. we started this roll, why stop it?
.. Supporting London to join EU

50% don't want another referendum, only 37% do. The SNP going ahead anyway.

 

[Hobbit]

50% don't want another referendum, only 37% do. The SNP going ahead anyway.

Maybe the consultation doc they've sent out will tell them what they need to spend the money they haven't got to achieve independence.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

How many times......Scotland can only spend what Westminster gives them. It is impossible to 'overspend'.

Now remind me, what is the total of the UK national debt?

 

[Hobbit]

How many times......Scotland can only spend what Westminster gives them. It is impossible to 'overspend'.

Now remind me, what is the total of the UK national debt?

Please explain how the deficit went up?

oh, that's right. The Treasury south of the border bailed Scotland out by covering the overspend. I wonder what delta % increase of the UK's national debt is down to a spendthrift SNP government?

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Please explain how the deficit went up?

oh, that's right. The Treasury south of the border bailed Scotland out by covering the overspend. I wonder what delta % increase of the UK's national debt is down to a spendthrift SNP government?

As you well know ...very little.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

How many times......Scotland can only spend what Westminster gives them. It is impossible to 'overspend'.

Now remind me, what is the total of the UK national debt?

Approx £75 bn, of which approx 20% is Scotland's share. Yet Scotland's population is around 9% of the total for the UK.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Before the vote Unilever boss says prices will go up if we vote to Leave - Project Fear! Project Fear! the outraged cry went up. And lo...it came to pass. Project Con! Project Con! the cry goes up - pioces rises nothing to do with Brexit. And the experts (never listen to experts what do they know?) tell us that this is just the start of things to come. Ah well. Guess we have to just stomach this for reclaiming control and parliamentary sovereignty - oh wait a minute...

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

50% don't want another referendum, only 37% do. The SNP going ahead anyway.

@FD - you know fine well that that is not what NicolaS announced today. The draft IndyRef2 Bill will be drafted and stuck on the shelf and NicolaS deems it timely to take it off - and I am guessing that that is not going to be for at least 2 yrs and then only when the majority want it.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Approx £75 bn, of which approx 20% is Scotland's share. Yet Scotland's population is around 9% of the total for the UK.

Really, why would 9% of the UK be responsible for 20% of the total debt ?

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Really, why would 9% of the UK be responsible for 20% of the total debt ?

Because the SNP administration is a grouping of feckless financially irresponsible populists and Scotland's economy is too dependent upon the Public Sector. North Sea oil revenues are only a fraction of what they once were etc; etc;

I am, of course, sure you will have an alternative theory.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Because the SNP administration is a grouping of feckless financially irresponsible populists and Scotland's economy is too dependent upon the Public Sector. North Sea oil revenues are only a fraction of what they once were etc; etc;

I am, of course, sure you will have an alternative theory.

Aye, right.
Meanwhile the 94% UK debt share [minus Scotland] is well under control, especially with the sinking £.

 

[FairwayDodger]

@FD - you know fine well that that is not what NicolaS announced today. The draft IndyRef2 Bill will be drafted and stuck on the shelf and NicolaS deems it timely to take it off - and I am guessing that that is not going to be for at least 2 yrs and then only when the majority want it.

Yip. She was very careful not to commit to any timescales beyond producing the draft bill.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Aye, right.
Meanwhile the 94% UK debt share [minus Scotland] is well under control, especially with the sinking £.

No wonder you can't understand the Barnett Formula

How can 100% less 20% equate to 94%.

 

[Hobbit]

No wonder you can't understand the Barnett Formula

How can 100% less 20% equate to 94%.

He doesn't want to understand more like. He's had the numbers many times but chooses to twist, squirm or ignore... reminds me of the first Indyref - aye right.

 

[IanM]

Politicians know best... democracy means you'll keep voting till you get the answer we want! I suspect the 2nd EU Referendum will take place before the 2nd Scottish one

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Impact of Barnett? Economic impact of Brexit could well be to drive public spending cuts (at least in the short-med term) and drive up inflation. Spending cuts will flow through to Scotland via the Barnett formula grant - and inflation will hit prices north of the border and (as usual) the poorest will suffer. The Scottish government could of course raise more finances to cover grant cuts through a tax increase - and they would try and sell that to the Scottish public as being a result of English voting Brexit and the Tory Government in Westminster implementing the necessary cuts - once more playing into the hands of the SNP and other Indy supporters.

 

[Hobbit]

Impact of Barnett? Economic impact of Brexit could well be to drive public spending cuts (at least in the short-med term) and drive up inflation. Spending cuts will flow through to Scotland via the Barnett formula grant - and inflation will hit prices north of the border and (as usual) the poorest will suffer. The Scottish government could of course raise more finances to cover grant cuts through a tax increase - and they would try and sell that to the Scottish public as being a result of English voting Brexit and the Tory Government in Westminster implementing the necessary cuts - once more playing into the hands of the SNP and other Indy supporters.

A quick question, is the Scottish Block Grant the payment made under the Barnett formulae?

 

[Foxholer]

A quick question, is the Scottish Block Grant the payment made under the Barnett formulae?

Yes!

 

[Hobbit]

Yes!

Thank you!!

 

[Dellboy]

If they feel the people of Scotland would prefer to leave the UK and be part of the EU, that's their choice.

Even if they voted to leave ( which I hope they do ) they will not be a part of the EU, when we leave we do so as Great Britain.

Cant see the EU wanting Scotland to join and if they did it would take many...many years to do so, thats even if the EU is still going by then