Brexit Two Months On

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I attended a business event this evening at which a panel of an accountant, lawyer and member of the local chamber of commerce gave their thoughts on Brexit. Some interesting points made.

Apparently, in the three months to September UK exports increased significantly contrary to expectations. Clearly part of this is down to the weakness of the pound, but certainly does not indicate that others are not willing to trade with the UK. One point put forward was that many countries outside of the EU do not like the institution and being outside may increase trading opportunities for the UK. The UK was shortly to become the largest economy in the EU, overtaking Germany, and because of our net contributions to it we are in a strong negotiating position regarding exit terms.

Going back to the vote, I voted leave. The reason? Gordon Brown signing the Lisbon Treaty in 2007 without giving us a referendum. We had been promised a referendum in the Labour party manifesto for any changes in the EU Constitution. Because of reverses in referendums in France and Holland they changed it from a change in the constitution to a Treaty which effectively had the same changes. Knowing full well that the country would not ratify it (Ireland voted no until forced to vote again after getting some concessions), Gordon Brown argued that the manifesto said a referendum would be held on changes to the Constitution, but not on a new Treaty. Basically just playing on semantics. From that date it was clear to me that the EU was wholly undemocratic and our government couldn't be trusted to deliver its promises on it either.
 
Watching the news which reported that Sir J Fraser Stoddart using his acceptance speech to raise the threat of Brexit and negative effect of raising the drawbridge on Science in this country. But what would he know he is yet another Brit living a comfortable life in the US and just been awarded the Nobel prize in Chemistry.. Bloody BBC still spreading negativity and talking us down.
 
Are you aware of the reputation of the authors. I doubt it.

I also recall the total lies that the Telegraph posted for four days on Nicola Sturgeon and the French ambassador. [that you fell for like a well hooked salmon.]
 
Are you aware of the reputation of the authors. I doubt it.

I also recall the total lies that the Telegraph posted for four days on Nicola Sturgeon and the French ambassador. [that you fell for like a well hooked salmon.]

He's in Krankies pocket and totally biased in his views. His assumptions make no account of the UK opening up further trade in the World. Just read some of the comments at the end for some more enlightened opinions.

Maybe I could get a better understanding by reading your unbiased 'Wings Over Scotland' :rofl:
 
I've been in Ireland over the past few days and just about every person I spoke to said 'why the feck did you leave the EU'. They find it all very baffling.
 
He's in Krankies pocket and totally biased in his views. His assumptions make no account of the UK opening up further trade in the World. Just read some of the comments at the end for some more enlightened opinions.

Maybe I could get a better understanding by reading your unbiased 'Wings Over Scotland' :rofl:

Name calling when you are caught out........you are so predictable.
 
Are you aware of the reputation of the authors. I doubt it.

I also recall the total lies that the Telegraph posted for four days on Nicola Sturgeon and the French ambassador. [that you fell for like a well hooked salmon.]

Name calling when you are caught out........you are so predictable.

You really take the biscuit! You posted the above and accuse me of name calling :rolleyes:
 
I've been in Ireland over the past few days and just about every person I spoke to said 'why the feck did you leave the EU'. They find it all very baffling.


Not exactly surprising in view of the level of EU funding that country has received.
 
interesting radio show>>
Discussing Home Secretary Amber Rudd's push to make firms list foreign workers, James O'Brien's startling point will stop you in your tracks
http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/james-amber-rudds-speech-echoes-mein-kampf/

views are that of the presenter, i m the messenger (but dont let that stop anyone from shooting me)
You felt the need to post so without any other comment we can only take it that you support the view. Do you support it?
 
What a one sided Anti British reply. Unbelievable!

Honestly - you are surely having a laugh...

Just for a start the @ColchesterFC post that I replied to concluded with the words

A simple yes or no would be fine.

And so I answered - Yes.

What in Gods name is 'one-sided' or 'anti-British' about that?

If sovereignty is the great desired of Leave then that means the UK can make it's own decisions without having to take into account the actions of others. There is absolutely no reason whatsoever and no imperative that demands or requires the UK government to expel 3million immigrants working and settled in the UK. And frankly to think of that that being a reasonable thing to do, in whatever circumstances, is itself totally unbelievable and appalling.

I can only think of one similar event - that of 1972 - when Idi Amin ethnically-cleansed Asians from his country. I can recall UK politicians of all shades being appalled at such an act; an inhumane act of a mad tyrant - as were the media and the UK populace appalled and then welcoming to 27,500 expelled Ugandan Asians.

And yet some in the government - and it would appear in the general electorate - seem think that a mass expulsion is OK - on purely political grounds. Not economic, not social, not cultural - but political. I hope it is simply because there is nothing yet thought through in the pipeline to offer for the control immigration and so it is flung out there to keep the Leavers happy.

Even to propose that the workplace identifies all those employees who are not of British 'stock' stinks. These are not the actions and thinking of the government of a country I would be proud to call my own. And for that I am called 'anti-British' - though it appears that this is the sort of accusation and name-calling that is going to be chucked at anyone who does not buy into Brexit-patriotism rot.
 
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