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She is not opposed to Brexit.
She is opposed to Scexit.
Basically and understandably she does not give a stuff what happens to you.
Brexit Two Months On
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She is not opposed to Brexit.
She is opposed to Scexit.
Basically and understandably she does not give a stuff what happens to you.
Don't the two go together?
SocketRocket
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Yes, you and her have certain similar attributes
Yes, you and her have certain similar attributes
I'm rather hoping she rides down Bodicea style to rescue us all from Mrs May and the three Brexiteers!
Doon frae Troon
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I'm rather hoping she rides down Bodicea style to rescue us all from Mrs May and the three Brexiteers!
Change the name of the SNP to The Progressive Party and go UK wide might be her next move.
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At the moment yes but she isn't bothered about that, after all what is the sole raison d'etre of her party.
As for being rescued by her ; No thanks!!
BTW can I ask when was your Damascene moment. Your sudden concern for immigrants does seem rather at odds with much that you posted in the past.
SocketRocket
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Progression towards bankruptcy.
I live on the outskirts of London and we are bursting at the seams with them, mostly those let in by the Blair/Brown Government, and now their children. Not much to do with the EU btw. My main problem is that our infrastructure, roads, schools, hospitals, etc, have not been increased pro-rata!
So, you're a rabid remainer but have a huge issue with immigration and the free movement of people.
I guess you've never won anything major on the pools as you seem to have a problem with where you put your 'X.'
1) I have no issues with immigrants on a personal level. If they are reasonable and polite to me, I will be reasonable and polite to them. My second wife was an immigrant from Southern Ireland. About as many Brits emigrate to other EU countries as EU citizens come to us, so they are not a problem. The problem is that we haven't controlled immigration from outside the EU!
2) I have always been a supporter of the EU.
SocketRocket
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Southern Irish are not quite the same, they have always had a right to live in the UK without visa.
So what is the difference between an unskilled worker from, say, Pakistan and one from Poland?
Your post was about the lack of infrastructure to support those that are already here, but you're now saying you're willing to accept more providing they are from within the EU, where there's unlimited migration. I don't understand your logic.
About as many Brits move to other European countries as EU folk come here, so the effect is pretty neutral. The pressure on immigration is coming from Middle-Eastern countries such as Syria, whose people are not EU citizens.
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270,000 EU citizens came to the UK last year, and 90,000 Brits emigrated. That's not neutral. Non-EU Immigration was 188,000...
C'mon Delc, at least be accurate rather than post rubbish.
Foxholer
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This statement is not supported by the statistics! https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...statisticsquarterlyreport/may2016/previous/v1
Most of the VISIBLE issues with immigration is from the plight from refugees - some of whom are simply 'economic' ones! The desperation of some of these is what is making the headlines in the media! The fact that they have (been) passed through at least 1 other EU country is an issue that should not be ignored!
That still gives them no automatic right of entry to the UK, as they are not EU passport holders, and we are not in the Schengen area, so still have border controls. That dreadful UKIP poster during the referendum campaign gave the impression that they could just walk across Europe straight into the U.K.!
SwingsitlikeHogan
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Yes it absolutely does help - and also I hear that the leaders of the devolved governments will be involved in two round table forums with David Davies before Christmas. Hopefully to be able to agree some basic foundations for the post Art50 negotiations that all can sign up to - though I have my doubts they'll manage that if things go the way that May has been indicating.
This is all I have been asking for. It also means that there is an Art50 prep plan and that that will include a milestone to have a baseline negotiation position - one that hopefully all have signed up to. However we also need to know at what point further input from the devolved governments will not be sought.
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CheltenhamHacker
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No we don't.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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Yes we do
You tell me why we should not know the cut-off date for input from the devolved governments - given that Scotland is an 'equal partner' in the union and when voting NO was to enable Scotland to remain in the EU.
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Foxholer
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I agree! Though it's likely that some sort of notification, if not agreement, will happen during/following actual exit negotiation.
We don't need to know the intimate goings-on of the negotiations, just as we don't need to know the intimate goings-on of diplomatic discussions! If the government (or EU for that matter) happens to make announcements, then make sure you have a decent amount of salt available, as it's likely the announcement is 'strategic' rather than final agreements!
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