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Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

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Well a look in my bank balance tells me how much impact Brexit is having; bugger all, both effect and in the bank. I’ve spent most of it on concert tickets, so somebody is touring. Of the current batch, 3 American acts, 2 British based bands and one British singer based abroad.

But nobody’s touring. ?
 
He may not be being “abused” but it’s the same posters time and time again badgering him for explanations or further information and questioning his posts.

If he bothers you so much, put him on ignore.

No other poster gets the attention/replies like silh.
Nobody is badgering him, they're replying to his posts. He posts in a forthright manner that often leads to people questioning it. Yes it's often the same people as there aren't that many that post on this subject matter and others may not be gather the attention SILH does but again that comes down to someone posting opinion as facts, who then doubles back on himself in several ways.

It's an open forum so if people want ti reply and question that is their right, just like it SILH right to put others on ignore if he doesnt wish to be questioned on what is often something he posts as fact or biased.
 
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Well a look in my bank balance tells me how much impact Brexit is having; bugger all, both effect and in the bank. I’ve spent most of it on concert tickets, so somebody is touring. Of the current batch, 3 American acts, 2 British based bands and one British singer based abroad.

But nobody’s touring. ?
Plenty folks touring. Just that looking into the future the two event and venue management companies that my son works with, and that tour managers for bands contact to arrange UK venues etc, have started to hear that some bands are not going to be including the UK...at least for the time being.

This will of course not be impacting the major bands or acts to the extent that it impacts the lesser bands, for whom hassle means cost - and for whom selling merch is their greatest source of impact on a tour. This is just what my son is being told by these companies as he goes to them seeking work. He's still getting work off them - and he seems to be getting established - so should be OK. But there are no guarantees.
 
Nobody is badgering him, they're replying to his posts. He posts in a forthright manner that often leads to people questioning it. Yes it's often the same people as there aren't that many that post on this subject matter and others may not be gather the attention SILH does but again that comes down to someone posting opinion as facts, who then doubles back on himself in several ways.

It's an open forum so if people want ti reply and question that is their right, just like it SILH right to put others on ignore if he doesnt wish to be questioned on what is often something he posts as fact or biased.
You’ve dressed it up a bit, who says he’s posting in a “forthright manner” that’s how you read them!

I read them as a the ramblings of a bitter old man.

Doesn’t make either of us correct, as for who answers him and who posts on this thread, I’d suggest that’s more down to the poster and everyone else ignoring or sick of the stuck record.

You may not see it as badgering, but when people are calling him a liar (in a polite manner) questioning his integrity etc then I’ll disagree with you.
 
You’ve dressed it up a bit, who says he’s posting in a “forthright manner” that’s how you read them!

I read them as a the ramblings of a bitter old man.

Doesn’t make either of us correct, as for who answers him and who posts on this thread, I’d suggest that’s more down to the poster and everyone else ignoring or sick of the stuck record.

You may not see it as badgering, but when people are calling him a liar (in a polite manner) questioning his integrity etc then I’ll disagree with you.
I'm not bitter and I am not old - thank you :) My BiL is certainly bitter, and my son is p'd off but getting on with it and keeping his fingers crossed.
 
You’ve dressed it up a bit, who says he’s posting in a “forthright manner” that’s how you read them!

I read them as a the ramblings of a bitter old man.

Doesn’t make either of us correct, as for who answers him and who posts on this thread, I’d suggest that’s more down to the poster and everyone else ignoring or sick of the stuck record.

You may not see it as badgering, but when people are calling him a liar (in a polite manner) questioning his integrity etc then I’ll disagree with you.
Feel free to disagree, but people are entitled to question integrity of a post or poster especially when posting opinion as fact.
 
I'm not bitter and I am not old - thank you :) My BiL is certainly bitter, and my son is p'd off but getting on with it and keeping his fingers crossed.
Never said you actually were, just how I picture you when reading your posts.
You might be the best the bloke in the world, I just don’t get that impression from your posts on Brexit over the last 2-3 years.(y)
 
Feel free to disagree, but people are entitled to question integrity of a post or poster especially when posting opinion as fact.
Then I’d politely suggest you take his “facts” with a pinch of salt.;)
 
Well a look in my bank balance tells me how much impact Brexit is having; bugger all, both effect and in the bank. I’ve spent most of it on concert tickets, so somebody is touring. Of the current batch, 3 American acts, 2 British based bands and one British singer based abroad.

But nobody’s touring. ?

Its made a 10% to 14% difference to my bank accounts for the last 3.5 years.
 
..and BiL is already finding that EU schools seems to be less interested... And he has contacts in the schools that seem to confirm his fears. It might be his age of course - but for TEFL?
My BiL has been a TEFL teacher for over 15yrs now in China. Part of his current role is recruiting foreign teachers. Doing TEFL in Europe is the easy option, close to the UK, easy to get home, cheap flights, local languages relatively manageable, and because of this Europe has a glut of people looking to teach there. Younger people in particular like this option before going home and getting a proper job. The vacancies are further afield, often in the Far East. Thinking you can rock up at 62, sadly not attractive to a head on the whole, and walk into a teaching job in Europe is optimistic based on my BiL experiences, they are the plum jobs.
 
Its made a 10% to 14% difference to my bank accounts for the last 3.5 years.
Unfortunately it’s had a affect on a number of my colleagues- loss of a big contract and 10 jobs lost plus more to come ?
 
My BiL has been a TEFL teacher for over 15yrs now in China. Part of his current role is recruiting foreign teachers. Doing TEFL in Europe is the easy option, close to the UK, easy to get home, cheap flights, local languages relatively manageable, and because of this Europe has a glut of people looking to teach there. Younger people in particular like this option before going home and getting a proper job. The vacancies are further afield, often in the Far East. Thinking you can rock up at 62, sadly not attractive to a head on the whole, and walk into a teaching job in Europe is optimistic based on my BiL experiences, they are the plum jobs.
Indeed they seem to be. He has spent most of the last 25yrs teaching and building his experience and qualifications in Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia and Myanmar - maybe even a short time in Japan. His aim was to get a decent 'final' role in an EU school. He gets occasional 'out of term time' jobs in UK unis - but they are for at the most 10weeks at a time and those that are kept on into term time are those who have been there - obviously. A difficult nut to crack. I'm not sure why his age should count against him as it takes time to get the experience - though I suspect that it does. But it does seem to be the case that his contacts tell him what's happening in the EU market.

He may well find that he has to head off to China - as grim (in his experience) as teaching the Chinese is. But I wouldn't want to be faced with that prospect...
 
He gave up touring as he was not making much money and his experience of border controls (that didn't exist) into Switzerland convinced him that whatever was going to happen - it wasn't going to get any easier - and the little he was making might well just vanish - and so he got out of touring. He looked ahead and decided that he'd get into something else in the same sector sooner rather than later - where he is today. And if that is impacted - he knows what he'll next move into...but that does not mean he has not been affected.
I don't suppose its because hes not that good? Just asking.
 
I’m going to celebrate :-

The end of this thread

The constant going around in circles

The lack of empathy towards other people’s situations

The single mindedness

The arrogance

The despair

The vultures

The idea that it’s a game that someone wins and someone loses

The way this whole process has divided people all over the country

Farage going and hopefully gone for good

The attitude to people who voted a different way

The insults

The derogatory comments
 
I’m going to celebrate :-

The end of this thread

The constant going around in circles

The lack of empathy towards other people’s situations

The single mindedness

The arrogance

The despair

The vultures

The idea that it’s a game that someone wins and someone loses

The way this whole process has divided people all over the country

Farage going and hopefully gone for good

The attitude to people who voted a different way

The insults

The derogatory comments
So are you waiting till end of December then when Brexit deals finally complete because none of what you've posted os going to change tonight. People still believe in what they choose to, whilst I agree with what you posted simply none of that's going to change opinions on what people voted for or personal opinions.
 
So are you waiting till end of December then when Brexit deals finally complete because none of what you've posted os going to change tonight. People still believe in what they choose to, whilst I agree with what you posted simply none of that's going to change opinions on what people voted for or personal opinions.

I think I’ll wait until all of them happen - going to be waiting a long time I reckon ?
 
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