Wolf
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Like one of those twisty turny joined up things they give kids with short attention spans because they go round and round on themselves to keep them occupied as they don't know where the beginning or the end is??
Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!
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IanM
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Job cuts immediately attributable to Brexit??
BBC are laying folk off...................... probably due to EU "educational grants" stopping? Or maybe the EU had a "pay back" clause in case us leaving!
BBC are laying folk off...................... probably due to EU "educational grants" stopping? Or maybe the EU had a "pay back" clause in case us leaving!
SocketRocket
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Dont drink mate but if I did it may numb me to the nausiem of your posts.
Please take up your French option ?
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Hacker Khan
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I'm just made up for the NHS who will be getting an extra £350 million a week from tomorrow. Happy days
??I'm just made up for the NHS who will be getting an extra £350 million a week from tomorrow. Happy days
ColchesterFC
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I'm just made up for the NHS who will be getting an extra £350 million a week from tomorrow. Happy days
They're going to have to wait until 1st January 2021 for that. Still got keep paying the membership fees until we actually leave. So if you're planning on getting ill I'd recommend that you leave it for at least 12 months. And if you can possibly hold off for 4 + 1/2 years then you'll be able to get treated in one of the 40 brand new hospitals that the Tories are going to build.
SocketRocket
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Oh deary deary dear !!!! You're so funny ?I'm just made up for the NHS who will be getting an extra £350 million a week from tomorrow. Happy days
SocketRocket
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So, is it going to happen after all?They're going to have to wait until 1st January 2021 for that. Still got keep paying the membership fees until we actually leave. So if you're planning on getting ill I'd recommend that you leave it for at least 12 months. And if you can possibly hold off for 4 + 1/2 years then you'll be able to get treated in one of the 40 brand new hospitals that the Tories are going to build.
ColchesterFC
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Is what going to happen?
SwingsitlikeHogan
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Job cuts immediately attributable to Brexit??
BBC are laying folk off...................... probably due to EU "educational grants" stopping? Or maybe the EU had a "pay back" clause in case us leaving!
The BBC have been slashing budgets for a few years now - in large part I guess due to DWP removing the funding it provided the BBC with for free licencing for the over 75s.
As a result of the cutbacks - BBC new project and 3rd party Service Delivery contract budgets were slashed, and as a result of that at least one major 3rd party I know has had to cut it's UK-based BBC Account engineering; finance; service and project management staff quite significantly - with these jobs going to near shore and offshore service delivery centres and centres of excellence set up by that company in Poland, Romania and India. Talking 100s of UK jobs.
robinthehood
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Ah it'll just be a passport of convenience. ?
SwingsitlikeHogan
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OK - I have explained about my BiL - but if I must.
He has built up significant experience and qualifications working overseas teaching English as a Foreign language in far east countries mainly - and has reached a fairly senior position in the 'schools' he has been working in. He is now 62.
His long term working strategy was to take that experience and his job history and move to the EU for his late working life, better paid so build up a retirement fund, and then for retirement. Unfortunately Brexit has meant that EU language schools no longer seem to be interested in hiring British teachers. They seem to be able to get all the teachers and Directors of Study (his level) they need from Ireland and elsewhere in the EU - they appear to have decided that they do not need to have the hassle and bureaucracy associated with employing a British teacher now that the UK is out of the EU.
And it is as simple as that.
Slab
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From what I read on BBC it appears that this is pretty much the self-same deal that was available & rejected many many months & a GE ago
Seems there was a point of principle re the UK parliaments refusal to accept internal UK border checks that May’s own party and others in parliament steadfastly refused to concede any ground with the EU (inc the current PM) and this more than anything prevented her getting her deal approved & as a result she got booted out of office for failing to deliver (all seems fair so far)
but from what I read Boris (now as PM & faced with the exact same task) has simply reversed his stance and conceded the border check & lo & behold the majority are ok with it now & have voted it through with Boris getting the credit for taking May’s deal + the border check he didn't support & running with it as his, a bit odd when he was the one stopping it in the first place. He seems a bit of a cad & a wrong un if you ask me…
If that’s the accepted strategy it really doesn’t look good going forward over the next 4 years as even more negotiations kick off
SocketRocket
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Was it you who was saying for so long that Brexit wont be allowed to happen.
If it wasn't you I apologise.
Old Skier
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Don't make it up. What hassle and bureaucracy is associated with employing a British teacher, nothing has been decided or do you have inside information on this years discussion. You seem to be making things up just to suit your negative views.
PS: China has no problem employing British teachers to teach English and it's well payed.
SocketRocket
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Oh dear, would that be a public convenience?
SwingsitlikeHogan
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...and as I also mentioned my son - I'll just explain how Brexit has impacted him.
His work is in event and venue management for touring bands and artists - he gets work by getting assigned to tours - no work, no pay.
Many bands and artists are now not including the UK in their tour plans due to potential issues - specifically in respect of work permits; merchandising sales; border checks and associated additional costs (in a low margin industry). What this means to my son is that he is already looking at a reduction in the work coming his way due reduced numbers of bands touring - hopefully he is becoming sufficiently established in the UK business that he'll be in demand - but he has no control over that whatsoever.
He saw this coming immediately following the referendum as he himself was in a touring band - and he saw the potential issues with touring in the EU27 - where most of the interest in his music lies. So he jacked that in - and only does it on-line now - and moved his focus to supporting touring bands and other acts. And of course as mentioned...he keeps his fingers crossed.
Simple really.
His work is in event and venue management for touring bands and artists - he gets work by getting assigned to tours - no work, no pay.
Many bands and artists are now not including the UK in their tour plans due to potential issues - specifically in respect of work permits; merchandising sales; border checks and associated additional costs (in a low margin industry). What this means to my son is that he is already looking at a reduction in the work coming his way due reduced numbers of bands touring - hopefully he is becoming sufficiently established in the UK business that he'll be in demand - but he has no control over that whatsoever.
He saw this coming immediately following the referendum as he himself was in a touring band - and he saw the potential issues with touring in the EU27 - where most of the interest in his music lies. So he jacked that in - and only does it on-line now - and moved his focus to supporting touring bands and other acts. And of course as mentioned...he keeps his fingers crossed.
Simple really.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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OK - why would I make this up...do you wish me to post a scan of all the rejections he has had...do you want to ask him...no don't - he is a very very p'd off 62 yr old at the moment. BTW - he tells me that China is a dreadful place to teach English...and yes there are jobs out there - but China was not in his career plan.
Does the evidence of Brexit impacting ordinary folks negatively - evev before we have left - not fit with the agenda?
Old Skier
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You continue to just make it up. Most of the big bands that come to the UK and also tour Europe are from outside of Europe. Nothing has changed for them and again no decision have been made on the rest of your post.
You really are telling massive porkies now.
ColchesterFC
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Nope not me. Possibly IanM or MegaSteve but not 100% certain. Although for a long time I did share the sentiment that it wouldn't happen and that there would be a 2nd referendum on the matter.
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