Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

[Hobbit]

I see Brussels intend to ask for an additional ~£20m from member states to cover their costs of promoting the EU and staffing EU elections in the UK. Its not a lot but apparently they forgot to make a provision for the expenditure in their budgeting.

This comes while members are trying to cut their own expenditure against a background where Brussels has hiked their own planned expenditure way above inflation. - r27 aren't happy.

I wonder how much they might think of 'fining' the UK for not appointing our representative? - anyone venture a guess...

Think the UK should appoint Farage. After all, he is the leader of the UK's largest MEP representation...... sorted.

 

[drdel]

Think the UK should appoint Farage. After all, he is the leader of the UK's largest MEP representation...... sorted.

They'd want to reject him but ( as for the French and German guys they refused) they would then cause the delay themselves; A good plan to get the PM off the hook

 

[Mudball]

Those arguing for Canada or Norway+ ... posted as seen on Twitter.. not fact checked

https://twitter.com/x/status/1195759923885465601

 

[ger147]

Those arguing for Canada or Norway+ ... posted as seen on Twitter.. not fact checked

https://twitter.com/x/status/1195759923885465601

How much do Canada pay?

 

[ColchesterFC]

Those arguing for Canada or Norway+ ... posted as seen on Twitter.. not fact checked

https://twitter.com/x/status/1195759923885465601

Just with some basic (and very approximate) Maths, assuming that we pay approx £250 million per week nett that works out as around £12 billion per year. UK population of approx 70 million. 12 billion divided by 70 million equals approx £171 per person per year.

The £29 per head at 70 million population would mean our contributions per year would be 2 billion.

 

[Hobbit]

Just with some basic (and very approximate) Maths, assuming that we pay approx £250 million per week nett that works out as around £12 billion per year. UK population of approx 70 million. 12 billion divided by 70 million equals approx £171 per person per year.

The £29 per head at 70 million population would mean our contributions per year would be 2 billion.

Stop it with the fake news...

 

[robinthehood]

Just with some basic (and very approximate) Maths, assuming that we pay approx £250 million per week nett that works out as around £12 billion per year. UK population of approx 70 million. 12 billion divided by 70 million equals approx £171 per person per year.

The £29 per head at 70 million population would mean our contributions per year would be 2 billion.

You're getting confused.... we will still be paying many billions to the EU

 

[robinthehood]

Stop it with the fake news...

That's you're department , remain on the outside, brexit on the inside.

 

[ColchesterFC]

You're getting confused.... we will still be paying many billions to the EU

I'm not confused at all. I was simply responding to the suggestion that EU membership costs us £29 per person per year. Clearly that figure is way out.

 

[robinthehood]

I'm not confused at all. I was simply responding to the suggestion that EU membership costs us £29 per person per year. Clearly that figure is way out.

Your 12 billion is way too high

 

[Mudball]

How much do Canada pay?

Remind me why they have a better deal and decision rights?

 

[ger147]

Remind me why they have a better deal and decision rights?

I'll answer your question when you answer mine...

 

[robinthehood]

How much do Canada pay?

Pay for what? They don't have the same access as an EU member. So the question is irrelevant.

 

[ColchesterFC]

Your 12 billion is way too high

If anything it's a little low. "In 2018 the UK made an estimated gross contribution (after the rebate) of £13.2 billion."

https://researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ResearchBriefing/Summary/CBP-7886

My 70 million figure for population was also high. UK population in 2018 was 66.4 million.

13.2 billion divided by 66.4 million equals £198. So perhaps you should be more concerned that the £29 per head figure is way out.

Even taking into account the "public sector receipts" of £4.3 billion we get back (funds given back for the government to manage) it's a nett of £8.9 billion. Which is still £134 per person per year.

So I would counter that the quoted £29 per person per year is way too low.

 

[robinthehood]

at least you got to the correct net figure in the end.

 

[SocketRocket]

Good morning Mr Smith, Can I have a Haddock and Chips please.
Certainly Mr James, Salt and Vinegar ?

Yes please.

That will be £7.50 for the fish and chips and £10 for me allowing you to buy it from me.

But my next door neighbour doesnt pay you £10

Ah! Thats because he's not in the fish and chip club. Do you want to stay in it?

Nah! Think I'll leave if thats OK.

 

[ColchesterFC]

at least you got to the correct net figure in the end.

At least you've accepted that the original figure of £29 was massively wrong.

Perhaps it could be called an outright lie. Or maybe you'd prefer the term fake news.

 

[robinthehood]

At least you've accepted that the original figure of £29 was massively wrong.

Perhaps it could be called an outright lie. Or maybe you'd prefer the term fake news.

No idea just wondered why your were using such a massively incorrect number

 

[ColchesterFC]

No idea just wondered why your were using such a massively incorrect number

So you have a bigger issue with me originally suggesting that it was £171 per person per year when it's actually approx £134? My "massively incorrect number" was £37 out. The £29 figure is over £100 out but you don't wonder why the original post was using such a "massively incorrect number". Think that says everything about how one sided your views are on this subject. You've got your blinkers on and are unable to accept any criticism of the EU or being a member of it.

 

[robinthehood]

No, but dw, you're clearly very confused.