harpo_72
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Ah just give up, he was over confident and disconnected from reality.
Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!
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I’ll be honest, I never thought he or anyone else had a cunning plan. In fact I reckon Baldrick had more chance of coming up with a cunning plan.
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harpo_72
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Oh okay let’s lay out the characters..
Rees Mogg = Lord Melchard
Boris Johnson = Lord Percy ?
Farage = Lord Flashart ?
Corbyn = Baldrick ?
Hacker Khan
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I think this kind of sums up politics now. It's the bluff, the confidence born out of a sense of entitlement, the reliance on people not questioning too much what comes out of his mouth. This is all aided by political journalists who retweet the latest political spin from number 10 as a true story, the myth of Dominic Cummins as some kind of puppeteer masterminding all of this.
Where as logic and common sense would say that the parliamentary maths and clear splits in the Tory party means all this dead in a ditch, do or die BS was just to get the votes to be PM and to try and win the next election. And it will continue for the rest of the election campaign.
I don't think he was out maneuvered really, it was just his version of Brexit was much the same as TMays but the ERG were prepared to go with it now as essentially one of the characters he plays is a Brexiteer, is one of them. But he lost the DUP and some of the rest of parliament, who through party loyalty or their conscience stopping them, didn't let him bluster his way through us leaving on the 31st.
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So BJ was just a bit stupid?
Have you honestly never made a promise you couldn't keep?
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He wasn't stupid at all. He was calling the EU's bluff and it worked. He convinced them that he did have a way of leaving without a deal and it was this that got them to open the withdrawl agreement and change it, they have been scared of a no deal and the surrender alliance were playing straight into their hands. Of course its better suited to some to use the tired old 'Liar' card. Parliaments packed to the rafters with people who twist the truth of their intentions.
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https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-lies-conservative-leader-candidate-list-times-banana-brexit-bus-a8929076.html?amp
He is liar at the end of the day
Wasn’t that long ago he was telling everyone how wonderful the EU was and that we do everything possible to stay within the EU - referendum came around and he flipped when he knew he had the chance to gain more power.
Everything he has done has been all about him getting power - he has calculated his way to the PM job
He is liar at the end of the day
Wasn’t that long ago he was telling everyone how wonderful the EU was and that we do everything possible to stay within the EU - referendum came around and he flipped when he knew he had the chance to gain more power.
Everything he has done has been all about him getting power - he has calculated his way to the PM job
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Not to get myself a top job, no.....
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Absolute, unqualified nonsense. The truth of the matter is that the Benn act brought BJ back to the table after he had sought to engineer a No Deal exit. His blustering lies had absolutely no effect other than to get him the job. Only lard filled idiots like Mark Francois could ever believe that promise.
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Wasn't that long ago Jo Swinson was saying that we needed to leave the EU but that seems to have been brushed under the carpet.
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“Whataboutaryâ€
drdel
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And you know this as fact, or is it just your opinion?
Old Skier
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And fact
bluewolf
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Of course it’s my bloody opinion. That’s why I wrote it. But it’s just as valid as anyone else’s opinion that is stated as fact on here. Just that my opinion is right, obviously...... 😂
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But the conversation wasn’t about her - it was about the lies of the PM , is that the only answer , to attempt to divert on to someone else ?
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Absolute unqualified nonsense eh. So I guess that makes me a liar and lard filled idiot does it Danny. OK, if that's your new modus at least I'm prepared for it. Dissapointed but prepared. 😕
I'm sure all of us could find something from every political leader that shows they have told lies. As for its about X and you can't post about Y, oh bloody grow up!
The constant round of Boris said, Jeremy said, Jo said has achieved diddly apart from make each poster feel great that they've identified material that shows X is a liar. Well whoopee-doo. They're all the same.
Its not I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here, or any other reality/popularity TV show. I don't get why supposed intelligent people are focusing on party leaders to the level they are. Its about what the policies and promises are, along with a particular party's dogma
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I get it - Tory leader does U turn = bad
Other party leaders do U turn = we should ignore it.
Very balanced.
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