Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

[drdel]

Guardian reports talks between the EU and UK have stopped with no progress . Sky and Express reports Juncker is going to offer something.

It nice to be reliably informed

 

[patricks148]

was sitting next to a dutch couple in Saville the other day as 3 English guys walked past, the dutch guy tapped his wife and pointed saying " Brexshitters" at them, they both then laughed to each other.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

So why have they wasted 3 years asking for the UK to provide a solution which was never going to fly?

Simply because the solution was always going to be about how right wing UK politicians responded to Ireland.

 

[Hacker Khan]

Guardian reports talks between the EU and UK have stopped with no progress . Sky and Express reports Juncker is going to offer something.

It nice to be reliably informed

With the caveat that using The Express as a reliable source of information is optimistic at best, I imagine both sides are spinning like hell to anyone who will listen to try and get their point across.

 

[Deleted member 18121]

"amazing" news coming out about Bercow and david sassoli - supposedly Bercow has been negotiating with the EU on how to disrupt the no deal brexit process.

If this is true I wonder what/if there could be any kind of prosecution.

 

[Hacker Khan]

"amazing" news coming out about Bercow and david sassoli - supposedly Bercow has been negotiating with the EU on how to disrupt the no deal brexit process.

If this is true I wonder what/if there could be any kind of prosecution.

Is this from Farage's or Tice's twitter feeds?

I mean here's another version of it with a slightly fewer unhinged conspiracy theories and talk of prosecutions. http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/...peaker-of-the-uk-house-of-commons-john-bercow

 

[IanM]

No, there is a EU Parliament clip on twitter of Sassoli speaking about it...

Farage was lying about the EU Army....until the EU said they were setting up an Army!

 

[MegaSteve]

was sitting next to a dutch couple in Saville the other day as 3 English guys walked past, the dutch guy tapped his wife and pointed saying " Brexshitters" at them, they both then laughed to each other.

Interesting... My lad speaks on an almost daily basis to folk in the Netherlands... At first, they advised, they were a little/lot jealous of being in the position of escaping the clutches of Brussels... Now, they say, they can't believe how appallingly bad/inept our politicians are...

The folk in the German office (HQ) can't believe sales are up and wonder why the UK haven't put a block on EU businesses in the same manner blocks have been put on UK businesses since the vote...

 

[Taz]

If this is true its an utter disgrace:


Richard Tice

@TiceRichard
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BREAKING: here in Brussels new President Sassoli admits in chamber that he has bypassed the UK PM and Govt and is now in direct discussions with Bercow about Brexit negotiations. He refused to take my urgent question on what authority they had to have these discussions.

 

[IanM]

Been going on for months....

When I see "by whom" and "how" leaving is prevented, it makes it more important. But I've always said we won't be allowed.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

If this is true its an utter disgrace:


Richard Tice

@TiceRichard
· 1h
BREAKING: here in Brussels new President Sassoli admits in chamber that he has bypassed the UK PM and Govt and is now in direct discussions with Bercow about Brexit negotiations. He refused to take my urgent question on what authority they had to have these discussions.

😂😂😂😂😂😂

You really think that’s happening

 

[Taz]

yes
next
https://order-order.com/2019/10/09/eu-president-bercow-working-block-no-deal/

 

[Deleted member 15344]

yes
next
https://order-order.com/2019/10/09/eu-president-bercow-working-block-no-deal/

Again that means nothing two people talking to each - no one bypassed , just talking to someone. And is it actually what he is saying ? Can anyone confirm the translation.

 

[Old Skier]

So which word of that did we not know when we voted to leave.

Which word of that did we not know when being told by lead leavers that leaving would be so easy; it would be the easiest deal in human history (Liam Fox); that we'd have the deal of our choice (Farage I believe); that the German car industry (Digby Jones), the French cheese and wine and the Italian prosecco producers would demand that the EU strikes a good deal with us. What bit of that did we not know...? We knew it all.

But when it was pointed out that the EU would stick to their guns over the CU especially - that they had to stick to their guns; that they would uphold the underpinnings of GFA - that was all dismissed as the scaremongering of Project Fear and to be ignored. What bit of that did we not know.

But no pointing at Project Fear for the evidence that leavers knew that a No Deal exit was likely if we did not understand the EUs red lines and set out our negotiating stall in the context of them - accepting them as very severe constraints on any deal that might be struck. Because Leave voters were told to ignore anything to do with Project Fear - to dismiss it as unrealistic scaremongering.

Which bit of all of this did we not know.

But - as said - today I feel thoroughly depressed and full of despair for our country - riven by Brexit - and daily the wedge is hammered in by such as the abhorrent Leave.EU twitter post. Well at least it makes clear the stinking thinking of those who thought it a good idea. But it's out there - no point in apologising. Their apologies are empty. It was deliberate - it stokes the fury further. Desperate.

Perhaps you wouldn't feel so depressed and full of despair if you closed your twitter account and stayed off social media. The remedy to your problem is easy

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Perhaps you wouldn't feel so depressed and full of despair if you closed your twitter account and stayed off social media. The remedy to your problem is easy

I'm not on twitter.

 

[clubchamp98]

If this is true its an utter disgrace:


Richard Tice

@TiceRichard
· 1h
BREAKING: here in Brussels new President Sassoli admits in chamber that he has bypassed the UK PM and Govt and is now in direct discussions with Bercow about Brexit negotiations. He refused to take my urgent question on what authority they had to have these discussions.

what can Bercow do about stopping it now!

 

[Taz]

I believe he sets the agenda

 

[clubchamp98]

Interesting... My lad speaks on an almost daily basis to folk in the Netherlands... At first, they advised, they were a little/lot jealous of being in the position of escaping the clutches of Brussels... Now, they say, they can't believe how appallingly bad/inept our politicians are...


There not the only ones

 

[clubchamp98]

I believe he sets the agenda

I thought parliament shut yesterday?

 

[Old Skier]

Strange, you mention

But - as said - today I feel thoroughly depressed and full of despair for our country - riven by Brexit - and daily the wedge is hammered in by such as the abhorrent Leave.EU twitter post. Well at least it makes clear the stinking thinking of those who thought it a good idea. But it's out there - no point in apologising. Their apologies are empty. It was deliberate - it stokes the fury further. Desperate.

So why are you mentioning the abhorrent Leave EU Twitter post, cant be your barber telling you, he's gone home, perhaps it's your mates down the pub.