Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

[Taz]

This is big. From a Government source. It shows that Boris Johnson will not abandon his culture war to secure Brexit, deal or no deal, on 31 October, despite (or because of) the Supreme Court humiliation. Some in Johnson's cabinet will be uneasy. "Judges are making our case... " for us. Boris is trying to get Brexit done by 31 October, which most people agree with, and he faces the rich, powerful Remain world determined to overturn the biggest democratic vote in British history. The Supreme Court has said themselves their judgment... "is about giving Parliament more time for its fight against the government over Brexit so they can hardly be surprised when millions draw the inevitable inference..." This is all going to get even messier before we're through it.

 

[clubchamp98]

We can but hope

The EU must be pissing their pants laughing today.

 

[Deleted member 1147]

The EU must be pissing their pants laughing today.

With this shower in charge, I imagine they ran out of dry underwear by early 2017.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

This is big. From a Government source. It shows that Boris Johnson will not abandon his culture war to secure Brexit, deal or no deal, on 31 October, despite (or because of) the Supreme Court humiliation. Some in Johnson's cabinet will be uneasy. "Judges are making our case... " for us. Boris is trying to get Brexit done by 31 October, which most people agree with, and he faces the rich, powerful Remain world determined to overturn the biggest democratic vote in British history. The Supreme Court has said themselves their judgment... "is about giving Parliament more time for its fight against the government over Brexit so they can hardly be surprised when millions draw the inevitable inference..." This is all going to get even messier before we're through it.

I think this is an interesting angle. Whilst many in the press and Westminster will love this ruling it may play well to the public for Boris. He is trying to enact Brexit and all of these obstacles are being put in his way. However, he still ploughs on 'we will leave on Oct 31st'. I suspect many millions don't care about this judgement but do care about leaving. In an election campaign I am not sure this damages him, it may even enhance him to many voters.

 

[Taz]

The EU must be pissing their pants laughing today.

no just filling their pockets :

They have just announced in Brussels that the UK must pay £17 BILLION in 2020 - even after a no deal Brexit Rather than cut projects or ask existing members to pay more, their plan is to milk us as if Brexit didn’t happen

 

[Deleted member 1147]

This is big. From a Government source. It shows that Boris Johnson will not abandon his culture war to secure Brexit, deal or no deal, on 31 October, despite (or because of) the Supreme Court humiliation. Some in Johnson's cabinet will be uneasy. "Judges are making our case... " for us. Boris is trying to get Brexit done by 31 October, which most people agree with, and he faces the rich, powerful Remain world determined to overturn the biggest democratic vote in British history. The Supreme Court has said themselves their judgment... "is about giving Parliament more time for its fight against the government over Brexit so they can hardly be surprised when millions draw the inevitable inference..." This is all going to get even messier before we're through it.

I do feel sorry for all the poor leavers (Rees Mogg, Gove, Johnson, Farage, Banks et al)

 

[Taz]

no just filling their pockets :

They have just announced in Brussels that the UK must pay £17 BILLION in 2020 - even after a no deal Brexit Rather than cut projects or ask existing members to pay more, their plan is to milk us as if Brexit didn’t happen

 

[robinthehood]

I do feel sorry for all the poor leavers (Rees Mogg, Gove, Johnson, Farage, Banks et al)

Dont forget Mr Dyson

 

[Deleted member 1147]

I think this is an interesting angle. Whilst many in the press and Westminster will love this ruling it may play well to the public for Boris. He is trying to enact Brexit and all of these obstacles are being put in his way. However, he still ploughs on 'we will leave on Oct 31st'. I suspect many millions don't care about this judgement but do care about leaving. In an election campaign I am not sure this damages him, it may even enhance him to many voters.

Is his own uselessness one of those obstacles?

I'm sure many millions don't care, they'd rather the government concentrated on putting all the non-EU issues right, rather than pissing all the time they have into the BREXIT rubbish

 

[Deleted member 1147]

Dont forget Mr Dyson

The poor dear

 

[robinthehood]

The poor dear

And his mates Mr JCB and Wetherspoon.

 

[robinthehood]

And your post typifies the problem.

Tell me how it isnt the tory parties fault?
I remember telling you at the time that by voting down Mays deal, the ERG were probably giving up on brexit ever happening.
Its not any closer is it?
If they had put the country ahead of their own personal interests then we could have left by now and be negotiating the next phase.
Instead we are in this sorry mess , Labours only fault is they are not much of an opposition.

 

[Deleted member 1147]

And his mates Mr JCB and Wetherspoon.

Stop it! If you keep mentioning all these rich & powerful leave supporters, you're going to make it seem like it isn't only the remainers who can be described as "the elite"!

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Dont forget Mr Dyson

…..and Mr Tim Martin of Weatherspoon's who just can't understand why his business is doing so poorly since he started backing the leave mob and isolated 48% of his customers.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Is his own uselessness one of those obstacles?

I'm sure many millions don't care, they'd rather the government concentrated on putting all the non-EU issues right, rather than pissing all the time they have into the BREXIT rubbish

The Brexit is the only issue right now, wrongly but true. When people vote in the inevitable election it will dominate.

 

[Swinglowandslow]

Goodness me, you seem to be lacking a serious amount of facts in that comment.

UK Supreme Court judgement ….Scottish Courts 11 English Courts 0.
UK Parliament takes back control.
You lost, get over it.

And you can't even see what my comment was about. If you bothered to show what my comment was in response to, you will see it is the SNP in general.
I am not commenting on the Courts', Scottish or English , decision on prorogueing, I am commenting on the immorality of people using a Parliament they don't want to be in ( because they want their own as an independent nation) to throw spanners in the works for their own agendas, those agendas being nothing to do with the wellbeing or progress of England , Wales or NI.
It's like a company having people on its board of directors who don't want to be in that company, but on the board of another one completely; and having the gall to affect the decisions of the board they are sitting on, notwithstanding that they have no interest in the effect those decisions have on that company unless those decisions assist their ability to leave that company.
You think that is morally right?

 

[Deleted member 16999]

no just filling their pockets :

They have just announced in Brussels that the UK must pay £17 BILLION in 2020 - even after a no deal Brexit Rather than cut projects or ask existing members to pay more, their plan is to milk us as if Brexit didn’t happen

Really?
It covers projects ongoing in the UK as well as other projects jointly involved, aero bus, security etc.

Does anybody genuinely believe if we left with a No Deal Brexit on 31st Oct we wouldn’t pay a penny more.

 

[Deleted member 1147]

The Brexit is the only issue right now, wrongly but true. When people vote in the inevitable election it will dominate.

So the NHS doesn't matter to millions of people,
Schools don;t matter to millions of people,
Poverty doesn't matter to millions of people,
Climate change doesn't matter to millions of people,
Social care doesn't matter to millions of people?

 

[robinthehood]

So the NHS doesn't matter to millions of people,
Schools don;t matter to millions of people,
Poverty doesn't matter to millions of people,
Climate change doesn't matter to millions of people,
Social care doesn't matter to millions of people?

Exactly
Real issues!
Instead we piss the last 3 years away on some intangible nonsense that is brexit.

 

[SocketRocket]

Exactly
Real issues!
Instead we piss the last 3 years away on some intangible nonsense that is brexit.

We didn't need to though, leaving could be so easy if MPs respected the peoples vote.