spongebob59
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At the moment it's Jezza the red and the union's vs rest of the party b y the sound of things.
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It has been that way since he got in. It has got worse as he has cemented his place, slowly or not so slowly pushing out all those who disagree with him.
You currently have Boris expelling moderate Tories and Jezza & co edging out moderate Labour MP's. It is a real shame that Change UK did not take off. Where do moderate UK voters go? (please no one say Lib Dem
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It has been that way since he got in. It has got worse as he has cemented his place, slowly or not so slowly pushing out all those who disagree with him.
You currently have Boris expelling moderate Tories and Jezza & co edging out moderate Labour MP's. It is a real shame that Change UK did not take off. Where do moderate UK voters go? (please no one say Lib Dem
It’s a good thing, there has to be a middle ground and the extremes have to stand alone, they have tried to hide in the mainstream parties for years.
I can see the independent candidate being popular, but they are not financed and in the end what will their vote amount to in the house?
Another party needs to arrive fast or it will be Lib Dem ... the best solution is the Tory party splits it’s factions as does the Labour Party .. all those who want brexit join Farage and be done with it.
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I think Jeremy has everything covered.
spongebob59
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McDonnell promises 32 hour working week for same pay. Magic.
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It has been that way since he got in. It has got worse as he has cemented his place, slowly or not so slowly pushing out all those who disagree with him.
You currently have Boris expelling moderate Tories and Jezza & co edging out moderate Labour MP's. It is a real shame that Change UK did not take off. Where do moderate UK voters go? (please no one say Lib Dem
SNP
Doon frae Troon
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I am not so sure about that...….they could be seen as the 'second referendum vote party '.
That could be popular now Swinson has ruled that out.
Scots proroguing law decision will be given tomorrow AM.
Doon frae Troon
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UK voters
Anyway, I said moderate voters
Have we been chucked out of the UK then, I didn't see that on the BBC news.
SNP is the most moderate party in the UK at the mo and has been for years.
Naughty, naughty. You don't cover the whole of the UK, same as Plaid, DUP etc.Have we been chucked out of the UK then, I didn't see that on the BBC news.
SNP is the most moderate party in the UK at the mo and has been for years.
As to the second part, that is not a high bar right now
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10.30 tomorrow. Guardian have it that Govt will likely lose. https://www.theguardian.com/law/2019/sep/22/supreme-court-verdict-boris-johnson-prorogation
However it seems of little importance if the Govt can just prorogue again. Media will go into meltdown over BJ lying to HM but joe public won't give a stuff, we're all too conditioned to it, nothing is a surprise any more.
Wonder how Lizzie will take another visit so soon from Rees Mogg and accomplices up to Balmoral on political matters disturbing her holiday?
harpo_72
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I am sure the queen will enjoy listening to more lies10.30 tomorrow. Guardian have it that Govt will likely lose. https://www.theguardian.com/law/2019/sep/22/supreme-court-verdict-boris-johnson-prorogation
However it seems of little importance if the Govt can just prorogue again. Media will go into meltdown over BJ lying to HM but joe public won't give a stuff, we're all too conditioned to it, nothing is a surprise any more.
Wonder how Lizzie will take another visit so soon from Rees Mogg and accomplices up to Balmoral on political matters disturbing her holiday?
SocketRocket
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🤥Have we been chucked out of the UK then, I didn't see that on the BBC news.
SNP is the most moderate party in the UK at the mo and has been for years.
spongebob59
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so Keir Starmer an ardent remaoner now backs Jezza the Reds fence sitting
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gets standing ovation for failing to take a view on whether Labour members should back
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’s Brexit ambivalence or Remain in three votes now
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gets standing ovation for failing to take a view on whether Labour members should back
@jeremycorbyn
’s Brexit ambivalence or Remain in three votes now
Doon frae Troon
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10.30 tomorrow. Guardian have it that Govt will likely lose. https://www.theguardian.com/law/2019/sep/22/supreme-court-verdict-boris-johnson-prorogation
However it seems of little importance if the Govt can just prorogue again. Media will go into meltdown over BJ lying to HM but joe public won't give a stuff, we're all too conditioned to it, nothing is a surprise any more.
Wonder how Lizzie will take another visit so soon from Rees Mogg and accomplices up to Balmoral on political matters disturbing her holiday?
She will drop them off half way across a grouse moor and tell them to make their own way back [pointing in the direction of the guns.]
Or...….wait until the peasant shooting season starts.
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Corbyns democracy.
Peston.
Labour's leadership may have failed in the "drive by shooting" of Tom Watson (using his colourful words) but they have totally stitched up NEC and conference Brexit votes - by making sure their supporters were largely in the room, and keeping out those pesky..Remainers. None of this should come as a surprise. But it was still awe-inspiring to watch in action. The point is that for the past 24 hours, all the attention has been on which way the big unions would vote. And when Unison turned against Corbyn's Brexit neutrality..it looked as if the Remainers might just squeak a victory. But in the end the unions' position was irrelevant. Because the conference votes were done by a show of hands. And guess what? There just weren't many Remainers on the conference floor. I wonder how that happened? It's... . .a bit like how two crucial 8am NEC meetings were cancelled and requests for emailed submissions on the Brexit policy were made at around midnight on the prior evenings, making it almost impossible for Corbyn's critics to get their act together. For spectators like me - who... spent 15 years observing the tactics of China's leaders - all this is quite familiar and funny. For passionate Labour Remainers, it's infuriating.
Peston.
Labour's leadership may have failed in the "drive by shooting" of Tom Watson (using his colourful words) but they have totally stitched up NEC and conference Brexit votes - by making sure their supporters were largely in the room, and keeping out those pesky..Remainers. None of this should come as a surprise. But it was still awe-inspiring to watch in action. The point is that for the past 24 hours, all the attention has been on which way the big unions would vote. And when Unison turned against Corbyn's Brexit neutrality..it looked as if the Remainers might just squeak a victory. But in the end the unions' position was irrelevant. Because the conference votes were done by a show of hands. And guess what? There just weren't many Remainers on the conference floor. I wonder how that happened? It's... . .a bit like how two crucial 8am NEC meetings were cancelled and requests for emailed submissions on the Brexit policy were made at around midnight on the prior evenings, making it almost impossible for Corbyn's critics to get their act together. For spectators like me - who... spent 15 years observing the tactics of China's leaders - all this is quite familiar and funny. For passionate Labour Remainers, it's infuriating.
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82% of English NHS prescriptions are already free...………..take off the costs of administrating the existing system and it will probably equate to the amount that the 18% pay.
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