Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

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McDonnell has declared 'No Deal' will not be an option if they offer a re-run referendum - but they may of course change their mind !
In that case if leave won we would be back where we are now.
What’s the point of that?

But if Remain won Aaah
Most leavers imo want a deal it’s the politics that’s the problem.
Back to a trading bloc would be fine without the politics.
 
Parliament seems to have been making loads of laws over the years since the referendum, and I am not aware of the heavy and restrictive hand of the EU interfering or stopping us. Indeed another Bill is likely to receive Royal Assent today making it into Law - and I doubt it's drafting or passage through parliament has been controlled in any way by the EU. But that is what a sovereign parliament like the UK's can do. And oddly enough we haven't left yet.
 
So two Heads of State (Johnson and Varadkar) meet but one says I can't do any deals, even if I want to avoid damage to my own Irish citizens, because I am answerable to a negotiator I didn't appoint !
 
Could we bring in a law that demanded only straight bananas were sold?

Or even a law that said we had to send smoked fish through the post with an ice-pack? (asking for a friend). (y)
Two references to examples of anti-EU propoganda that are, for different reasons, complete twaddle!
 
Never gave you ten, I gave you one. I can only give examples in areas that I have knowledge. I doubt many go trawling through EU legislation unless they need to.
Was your example with regards to where you said "EU procurement legislation has had a negative affect on small businesses in my area including sending some out of business."?

Can you tell me how the legislation put businesses out of business? From what I have read, the legislation should have meant that for suppliers the process of bidding for public contracts should be quicker and less costly, enabling them to compete more effectively? Is that not the case? Is it more the regulations appear to prevent the UK Government "buying British"? Is that criticism not off-set though by the fact that UK companies can bid for lucrative government contracts in other member states on a level playing field?

I'd be interested to learn more.
 
Was your example with regards to where you said "EU procurement legislation has had a negative affect on small businesses in my area including sending some out of business."?

Can you tell me how the legislation put businesses out of business? From what I have read, the legislation should have meant that for suppliers the process of bidding for public contracts should be quicker and less costly, enabling them to compete more effectively? Is that not the case? Is it more the regulations appear to prevent the UK Government "buying British"? Is that criticism not off-set though by the fact that UK companies can bid for lucrative government contracts in other member states on a level playing field?

I'd be interested to learn more.

Three businesses in Devon I know of could not compete with the amount of admin and bureaucracy required to put a bid in and at the time they were suppliers who provided a very good service. If you haven't got the manpower or ability to put a bid together you can't bid. 2 have now gone and one is smaller than before which had the effect of reducing much needed employment in the county.
 
I mentioned the other day about some of my fears reference a No Deal.

Accepting some of the fears could be unfounded or scaremongering, I thought I would share this particular one.

https://e-surgery.com/brexit-crisis...A-JQsmbbns3aUChEAj3jtkl20kGBwEEg6g0dYxqn0tuHs
That seems to be caused by panic buying and stock piling then? Would you agree? If there are shortages, who has them? Someone is stock piling them somewhere they are not being held up in the ports.

This is about the fear of Brexit causing problems. Unfortunately the only way through this is for people to see lorries moving freely.
 
So two Heads of State (Johnson and Varadkar) meet but one says I can't do any deals, even if I want to avoid damage to my own Irish citizens, because I am answerable to a negotiator I didn't appoint !
Did you have any say in Johnson's or Varadkar's appointment? I certainly didn't!
 
Parliament seems to have been making loads of laws over the years since the referendum, and I am not aware of the heavy and restrictive hand of the EU interfering or stopping us. Indeed another Bill is likely to receive Royal Assent today making it into Law - and I doubt it's drafting or passage through parliament has been controlled in any way by the EU. But that is what a sovereign parliament like the UK's can do. And oddly enough we haven't left yet.
I would say the one going through now is massively in the EUs favour.
Why would they interfere.

Just playing Devils Advocate but if we introduced a law saying all French people are banned from coming to the UK.
Stupid I know but do you think the EU would challenge that.
 
That seems to be caused by panic buying and stock piling then? Would you agree? If there are shortages, who has them? Someone is stock piling them somewhere they are not being held up in the ports.

This is about the fear of Brexit causing problems. Unfortunately the only way through this is for people to see lorries moving freely.
But why are they panic buying or stock piling, it could be someone looking to make a quick profit or some other dodgy reason, but neither matter if joe average can’t get them.

It won’t be helped by the Governments approach to the speculation and uncertainty.
 
Did you have any say in Johnson's or Varadkar's appointment? I certainly didn't!
Technically yes in Johnson’s as his party was voted in in the GE.
In which we all have a vote.
But only members of said party vote for the leader.
Nobody votes for a PM unless he’s your local M.P.
 
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