Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

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BREAKING: Nigel Farage confirms Brexit Party won’t stand against Conservative candidates in an election if Boris Johnson promises to leave the EU without a deal. “Of course we’ll put country before party.” Massively helps the Tory vote, while the opposition is divided
This would of course mean abandoning any attempt to renegotiate the Withdrawal Agreement, which would save everyone a lot of time and effort anyway. And I guess
@brexitparty_uk
would want something in return for clearing the field..
Hes been saying this for the last 2 weeks, not sure this is breaking news 😂
 
I've watched the BBC news for ever and in the Brexit matter the BBC clearly have been biased towards remain. Over the last few weeks they have started pretty much all their bulletins with an "in the case of a no deal brexit" story and imo have never sought to balance their story with any benefit that leaving may bring, it has been a re run of project fear. After the speech, which I thought Boris clearly said that no one wants a GE she straight away poo poo'd that and went off on a narrative imo that was in direct contrast to the speech, something shes been doing for a couple of years now.
I've also watched BBC for a considerable time (decades) as the 'neutral voice' to most controversies (ones about the Beeb are excluded!).
I was obviously watching a different broadcast, as 'Our Vicky' was the commentator in the one I saw (thru t'internet) comenting on BoJo's speech and the associated 'Drinks Party' (including mentioning some of those who were absent). I thought it was pretty neutral - as is the Beeb's stated role. I normally find that those that criticise the Beeb are much more likely to be biased (one way or the other) and simply object to facts that undermine their particular view - whether that's Left v Right, or, in this case, Leave or Remain!
 
No one wants to be like you. Now listen to the Mods and stop stirring it, you are behind most of the trouble here with your fishing expeditions
Now that really IS Twaddle! DiT's posts are simply 'noise', virtually unrelated to the actual thread - but harking back to a now defunct one!
 
I've also watched BBC for a considerable time (decades) as the 'neutral voice' to most controversies (ones about the Beeb are excluded!).
I was obviously watching a different broadcast, as 'Our Vicky' was the commentator in the one I saw (thru t'internet) comenting on BoJo's speech and the associated 'Drinks Party' (including mentioning some of those who were absent). I thought it was pretty neutral - as is the Beeb's stated role. I normally find that those that criticise the Beeb are much more likely to be biased (one way or the other) and simply object to facts that undermine their particular view - whether that's Left v Right, or, in this case, Leave or Remain!

You're entitled to you're opinion as I am to mine, I find that these days they are biased on a number of things eg Brexit, climate change and rarely put forward a view opposite to their own mantra. Most people are biased "one way or another" and that is our entitlement as individuals.
 
You're entitled to you're opinion as I am to mine, I find that these days they are biased on a number of things eg Brexit, climate change and rarely put forward a view opposite to their own mantra. Most people are biased "one way or another" and that is our entitlement as individuals.
How are they biased on climate change? You are aware it's real and should be doing everything you can to help reduce its effects? I mean its the most serious issue there is.
 
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You're entitled to you're opinion as I am to mine, I find that these days they are biased on a number of things eg Brexit, climate change and rarely put forward a view opposite to their own mantra. Most people are biased "one way or another" and that is our entitlement as individuals.
How are they 'biased regarding climate change'? Do you not believe the overwhelming evidence that climate change is having an adverse effect on the planet?
 
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BREAKING: Nigel Farage confirms Brexit Party won’t stand against Conservative candidates in an election if Boris Johnson promises to leave the EU without a deal. “Of course we’ll put country before party.” Massively helps the Tory vote, while the opposition is divided
This would of course mean abandoning any attempt to renegotiate the Withdrawal Agreement, which would save everyone a lot of time and effort anyway. And I guess
@brexitparty_uk
would want something in return for clearing the field..

Cue picture of mini BJ sitting in Farage's top jacket pocket.;)
 
The scale of Hammond’s collusion with Jeremy Corbyn emerges. Did he also collude with Barnier?
Philip Hammond says Jeremy Corbyn made a private commitment not to vote for a general election until legislation to block no deal is locked down ‘I hope he will honour that pledge’
 
The scale of Hammond’s collusion with Jeremy Corbyn emerges. Did he also collude with Barnier?
Philip Hammond says Jeremy Corbyn made a private commitment not to vote for a general election until legislation to block no deal is locked down ‘I hope he will honour that pledge’
He’s a politician of course he won’t.
 
Labour’s current positions: - For Brexit, but also against it - For a deal, but not this one - For a referendum, but also against one - For an election, but not right now !
 
How are they 'biased regarding climate change'? Do you not believe the overwhelming evidence that climate change is having an adverse effect on the planet?

probably worth a thread all on its own.... and some good "arguments" to be heard. To sum up in one sentence - do I believe in climate change? Yes, but I dont believe that we are speeding up the process in the way the mainstream media is leading us to believe.

As for brexit..... I'm so so tired of it now, I just hope we leave with no deal on October 31st.
 
probably worth a thread all on its own.... and some good "arguments" to be heard. To sum up in one sentence - do I believe in climate change? Yes, but I dont believe that we are speeding up the process in the way the mainstream media is leading us to believe.

As for brexit..... I'm so so tired of it now, I just hope we leave with no deal on October 31st.
All news media now have a tag line at the end of the item ( this could/may be due to climate change)
If someone leaves the bath running and floods the house ( it could be due to climate change/Brexit )
It’s getting silly.
 
Rees-Mogg - truly an utterly complacent, arrogant and supercilious whatever-bag

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...es-mogg-doctor-shameful-no-deal-drug-concerns

My wife's cancer drug is manufactured in Hungary. She has concerns as she is very brand sensitive.

And don't dare give me any silly Project Fear dismissals. My wifes concerns are real and the government is doing NOTHING to allay them other than have the likes of Rees-Mogg talk the disgraceful and insulting tripe that he does - to people that actually understand the situation and the risks - and in doing so dismisses the concerns of such as my wife and many, many more as unfounded. But he does NOTHING to substantiate his smug statements - never mind accept and apologise for not telling us the truth about a No Deal exit as it might well impact such as medical supplies.

Release the risk assessments, let the people know. The Will of the People is practically worthless if it is uninformed.

Totally desperate state of affairs
 
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Rees-Mogg - truly an utterly complacent, arrogant and supercilious whatever-bag

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...es-mogg-doctor-shameful-no-deal-drug-concerns

My wife's cancer drug is manufactured in Hungary. She has concerns as she is very brand sensitive. I look forward to the airdrop to our local GP practice and pharmacy.
Old news again, government has made provisions to fly in drugs if necessary, I'm sure they will be direct to airports first before going on a courier service. This sort of action will most likely not even be necessary and may I ask, why would you want to be part of an organisation that would willingly delay drugs going through ports ? If that's the sort of people the EU are, everyone ought to be taking a long hard look at them.
 
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