robinthehood
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Backstop changes possible within 30 days. Let's hope so and put an end to this stagnation.
Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!
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ColchesterFC
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We're not having any of that French rubbish after Brexit.
I’m getting 2 Turkish toilets installed with my renovations
Brexiters will have a heart attack
ColchesterFC
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1. That comes across like the old British colonial attitude, kind of arrogant, just saying. Whatever suits us and to heck with Ireland.
2. How can it be 'no different', they are in the EU, we're soon not to be?
3. Didn't Eire invest in some super ferries recently so they could, if needed, try and bypass the UK in terms of trading goods to and from the continent? They were clearly looking at that scenario and they know they are going to be dragged into and negatively affected with BJs Brexit. They will do what they can to reduce the reliance on the UK for goods to and from Eire but that can only go so far.
4. People will dig their heels in though, it will all be dressed up in diplomacy but they are and will not be looking to give UK any favours in this self-harming identity crisis the UK is going through. What lovely neighbours we are, drag others down with us and no doubt then try and turn the blame on them.
To reply to the points you raised....
1. That wasn't how it was meant. I was simply looking for a solution that might help Ireland as well as resolve the issue of a hard border in Ireland. They are going to be seriously screwed in the event of No Deal. We keep getting told of the long queues that will be forming at ports, with goods from Ireland going to the EU stuck in those queues as well as UK goods. According to this article (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44657460) about 85% of Ireland's total EU freight goes via British ports. 60% of that is destined for the UK market with the other 40% destined for the EU. So that 40% would find itself stuck in any queues that had formed. I was thinking that if their goods could be checked at UK ports as they arrived and then be given free passage from there to Ireland it would help the flow of goods and avoid the need for checks within Ireland.
2. Northern Ireland is (for now) in the UK. Why is putting a border between Ireland and the EU different to a border between Northern Ireland and the rest of the UK? The NI/UK relationship is far longer established than the EU/Ireland one.
3. I didn't know about that but in the article I quoted above it mentions that they have two new freight ferries for trips between Dublin and Rotterdam.
4. Which is why I can't understand why the Irish PM has been so bullish and confrontational. He must understand how badly Ireland will be affected by a no deal Brexit especially in areas such as farming where tariffs could be applied to Irish beef exports to the UK. It's not about giving favours to the UK it's about protecting his own country.
ColchesterFC
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Have you got Polish builders in to do the work? If so it's just as well you're getting it done now as they'll all be rounded up and deported on 1st November.
The Irish PM has 26 other countries behind him as well as the Commissions top brass.
Jacko_G
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As I've said previously, Switzerland isn't in the EU, has 5 land borders, not one is a hard border. Why is it only an issue for us?
Doon frae Troon
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Don't be so dramatic, I am not telling you anything you did not already read from Government sources via Yellowhammer.
Essex was where the unsolicited info came from, two separate sources. One bread shelves completely empty, two hardly any green vegs on shelves.
I have noticed in both Tesco and Asda in Ayrshire they seem to be having stocking problems with bread and veg. Lots of empty shelves. Never seen that before. They could be just shortening their product range which in itself is not a healthy sign.
Either that or they do not have any shelf stocking staff and there is a warehouse jam packed with stuff.
ColchesterFC
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He does, but a no deal Brexit basically throws the Irish economy under a bus. The EU will be forced to bend/break some of their rules to support or rescue Irish businesses. And yet we get interviews from the top brass saying the rules are the rules and can't be changed. Except where it suits them.
Doon frae Troon
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Living near Cairnryan I am well aware of the emergency planning for the ferries A77 stacking etc, it does not sound very encouraging to be honest. They cannot magic up extra ferries as this useless Tory government found out last year.
It is the time that it will take for document checking etc that worries folk, that is going to be a permanent reset.
Doon frae Troon
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https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/brex...oid-no-deal-brexit/ar-AAG7RgT?ocid=spartandhp
I hope so, but if his government took three years to get to here then 30 days seems a big ask.
More BJ bluster I am afraid.
ColchesterFC
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Don't be so dramatic, I am not telling you anything you did not already read from Government sources via Yellowhammer.
Essex was where the unsolicited info came from, two separate sources. One bread shelves completely empty, two hardly any green vegs on shelves.
I have noticed in both Tesco and Asda in Ayrshire they seem to be having stocking problems with bread and veg. Lots of empty shelves. Never seen that before. They could be just shortening their product range which in itself is not a healthy sign.
Either that or they do not have any shelf stocking staff and there is a warehouse jam packed with stuff.
As we keep getting told by ardent Remainers every time there is any good news...."We haven't left yet". So why is it that empty shelves now are due to Brexit? We haven't left yet.
Yes, occasionally, there are some empty bread shelves in my local Tesco in Suffolk, but this is normally due to the fact that they have sold out of bread and are baking more to put on the shelves. Perhaps this is something that the politicians aren't telling us. After Brexit it will take longer to bake bread to replenish the shelves.
Leftie
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I have noticed in both Tesco and Asda in Ayrshire they seem to be having stocking problems with bread and veg. Lots of empty shelves. Never seen that before. They could be just shortening their product range which in itself is not a healthy sign.
Either that or they do not have any shelf stocking staff and there is a warehouse jam packed with stuff.
Hmmm Might be that the "just in time" ordering person has got it wrong and needs to be replaced by someone who can get it right!. My niece has, amongst other jobs at Waitrose, that duty and doesn't seem to have a problem with empty shelves.
SocketRocket
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Complete Balderdash and Twaddle of the first order. Oh my what a Twazzock.Don't be so dramatic, I am not telling you anything you did not already read from Government sources via Yellowhammer.
Essex was where the unsolicited info came from, two separate sources. One bread shelves completely empty, two hardly any green vegs on shelves.
I have noticed in both Tesco and Asda in Ayrshire they seem to be having stocking problems with bread and veg. Lots of empty shelves. Never seen that before. They could be just shortening their product range which in itself is not a healthy sign.
Either that or they do not have any shelf stocking staff and there is a warehouse jam packed with stuff.
Taz
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Striking that Merkel has pulled rug from under â¦@PhilipHammondUKâ©, the Gaukeward Squad and much of anti-no-deal posse by saying there is negotiation to be had in next 30 days on how to eliminate backstop. No wonder â¦@BorisJohnsonâ© looks happy .
Don't be so dramatic, I am not telling you anything you did not already read from Government sources via Yellowhammer.
Essex was where the unsolicited info came from, two separate sources. One bread shelves completely empty, two hardly any green vegs on shelves.
I have noticed in both Tesco and Asda in Ayrshire they seem to be having stocking problems with bread and veg. Lots of empty shelves. Never seen that before. They could be just shortening their product range which in itself is not a healthy sign.
Either that or they do not have any shelf stocking staff and there is a warehouse jam packed with stuff.
As bread and veg have a shelf life why would those shelves be completely empty now, 70 days away from Brexit? Why shorten stock lines with 70 days to go? Why would there be a warehouse jam on perishables?
Doon frae Troon
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I know, seems very strange.
Jacko_G
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Don't be so dramatic, I am not telling you anything you did not already read from Government sources via Yellowhammer.
Essex was where the unsolicited info came from, two separate sources. One bread shelves completely empty, two hardly any green vegs on shelves.
I have noticed in both Tesco and Asda in Ayrshire they seem to be having stocking problems with bread and veg. Lots of empty shelves. Never seen that before. They could be just shortening their product range which in itself is not a healthy sign.
Either that or they do not have any shelf stocking staff and there is a warehouse jam packed with stuff.
You'll need to get in earlier for the whoopsie priced deals mate.
Today sees figures for foreign investment in tech companies at a record high.
It does make you wonder why company directors would look at long term investment into a failing country? What on earth are company boards doing approving investment into a country that will be locked into a restricted trading regime with diminished market access?
Yet another hysterical, dire prediction blown out of the water?
It does make you wonder why company directors would look at long term investment into a failing country? What on earth are company boards doing approving investment into a country that will be locked into a restricted trading regime with diminished market access?
Yet another hysterical, dire prediction blown out of the water?
You should know by now that any good news has to have “despite Brexit†in it somewhere!
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