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Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!
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With reduced insulin, which keeps getting reported as a likely shortage as it's produced in EU, me and over a million others in UK are going to get super thin then sick fairly quickly. That's reasonably catastrophic on a personal level. It may be scaremongering (don't see why when these are generally civil service reports) and I think it's a resolvable issue but I really don't need this kind of daily reporting, do NHS pay for the new tariffs on EU produced insulin? Do I start trying to over-order it in case there's a shortage? I bet some people are trying that, there will be zero Blitz spirit for those short on daily medicines.
Diabetes UK are covering this issue as they should, would Brexiteers insist they are just scaremongering too?
The Yellowhammer info is not from some rabid Remainer on twitter, it's coming from HM Government and isn't out of date, albeit leaked or else we'd never get close to the facts from increasingly vague and hapless Govt cover up spokespeople like Gove and Cleverly. Johnson yesterday just seemed utterly out of his depth and looked exhausted....already - "I'll give it some ooomph" was the best he had, really.
Chickens are coming home to roost for that man.
Diabetes UK are covering this issue as they should, would Brexiteers insist they are just scaremongering too?
The Yellowhammer info is not from some rabid Remainer on twitter, it's coming from HM Government and isn't out of date, albeit leaked or else we'd never get close to the facts from increasingly vague and hapless Govt cover up spokespeople like Gove and Cleverly. Johnson yesterday just seemed utterly out of his depth and looked exhausted....already - "I'll give it some ooomph" was the best he had, really.
Chickens are coming home to roost for that man.
With reduced insulin, which keeps getting reported as a likely shortage as it's produced in EU, me and over a million others in UK are going to get super thin then sick fairly quickly. That's reasonably catastrophic on a personal level. It may be scaremongering (don't see why when these are generally civil service reports) and I think it's a resolvable issue but I really don't need this kind of daily reporting, do NHS pay for the new tariffs on EU produced insulin? Do I start trying to over-order it in case there's a shortage? I bet some people are trying that, there will be zero Blitz spirit for those short on daily medicines.
Diabetes UK are covering this issue as they should, would Brexiteers insist they are just scaremongering too?
The Yellowhammer info is not from some rabid Remainer on twitter, it's coming from HM Government and isn't out of date, albeit leaked or else we'd never get close to the facts from increasingly vague and hapless Govt cover up spokespeople like Gove and Cleverly. Johnson yesterday just seemed utterly out of his depth and looked exhausted....already - "I'll give it some ooomph" was the best he had, really.
Attached is the Commons Select Committee report on Pharma exports/imports to from the EU. Bear in mind the EU imports £24.6 billion worth of Pharma from the UK. Will they really cause problems with medicines?
https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201719/cmselect/cmbeis/382/382.pdf
drdel
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DfT, I fear your contact may have less knowledge of international logistics than he/she thinks.
There are more ports than Dover around the UK for bulk goods: Felixstowe, Bristol
, Liverpool, Hull etc, etc. There are numerous air freighters for time sensitive items. You may not know but lots of Airfreight goes by truck, and lots truckloads by sea and air as logisticians balance routes and capacity utilisation.
A shorterm issue as flows reset and adjust.
There are more ports than Dover around the UK for bulk goods: Felixstowe, Bristol
, Liverpool, Hull etc, etc. There are numerous air freighters for time sensitive items. You may not know but lots of Airfreight goes by truck, and lots truckloads by sea and air as logisticians balance routes and capacity utilisation.
A shorterm issue as flows reset and adjust.
Fade and Die
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Doon frae Troon
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Was this when he was slipping you the Yellowhammer dosier?
Two or three weeks before that.
Yellowhammer appears to have been leaked by a Tory minister.
Re medical supplies. https://www.parliament.uk/business/...-2017/cancer-detection-material-supply-17-19/
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Doon frae Troon
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You had better not speak to my daughter about that, she is already experiencing serious delays from her suppliers since Brexit.
Orders that used to take three days now taking three weeks. She does not seem to be the only one.
Wolf
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Is any part of this comment actually true... 🤔Just passing on what a senior government civil servant involved in Brexit emergency planning told a close relative.
He said the first major problem will be and paper tissue products.
Cant use torn up newspapers now as only the over 70's buy them.
Buying cheap EU fuel will close down our UK refineries.
Many cases of short dated medical products not produced in the UK.
My wife's relatives say they are already struggling to find fresh food products in some SE England supermarkets.
The Zoomers wanted a good ol blighty blitz spirit, looks like BJ is going to deliver that.
A senior government official ( civil servant) either has broken a lot of rules to give you this info therefore should be sacked or its being more than a little embilshed for the forum.
Also these supermarkets in the SE are you sure theyre not the local cost cutter or nisa. I spend a hell of a lot of time there as I'm from there and family all still there and every supermarket I've been in recently has had no issues, or have any family or friends had issue and you're aware that supermarket generally use the same suppliers throughout the country so it's likely if there's a shortage it's affected everyone or are we to assume anyone below the M25 can't get what they need though the many ports there but somehow they made their way north 🤔
I'm intrigued as to where in the SE these people are..
Yep something from the whole post really doesn't make sense.
chrisd
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Well I live in the deep SE and not seen any problems getting any stuff from supermarkets locally
Foxholer
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Many/most of those points that Doon posted are already in the public domain, so I don't believe there's been a breach of security involved!
Supermarkets are not going to 'promote panic' by disclosing supply issues!
Both sides are exaggerating the (lack of) effect Brexit will have.
To me, the only REAL problem identified is the Refineries - who will potentially lose their (UK) businesses. But that's always been a possibility, just like much of Banking - and they've taken steps to mitigate the potential!
There are major paper and tissue mfr in the UK, they are not all imported. Some of the raw materials will be imported, not all, but much of that will come from Scandinavia and come through the lighter used ports. The products involved, either finished or in raw material form, do not degrade so again, a couple of days at customs will have no impact.
The UK will not be running out of toilet paper. Everyone can relax ðŸ‘
The UK will not be running out of toilet paper. Everyone can relax ðŸ‘
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Just get a bidet installed .. save the mess and worry
BubbaP
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As it hasn't happened yet (maybe never), is there not the slightest chance these may be general supply issues?
Fade and Die
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Don’t worry Doon we in the sunny south will send up loo rolls with the next lorry load of cash we send North...
Thats good to hear as I’m off to the caravan the weekend (near Maidstone) and was worried I’d either starve or have to eat the dog
chrisd
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If you dont eat then you'd not have to worry about the lack of toilet rolls 🤫
drdel
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Buy from USA's Costco!
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Gone from a relative involved in Brexit emergency planning to a senior civil servant telling a relative - which is it, or is SILH barber involved again.Just passing on what a senior government civil servant involved in Brexit emergency planning told a close relative.
He said the first major problem will be and paper tissue products.
Cant use torn up newspapers now as only the over 70's buy them.
Buying cheap EU fuel will close down our UK refineries.
Many cases of short dated medical products not produced in the UK.
My wife's relatives say they are already struggling to find fresh food products in some SE England supermarkets.
The Zoomers wanted a good ol blighty blitz spirit, looks like BJ is going to deliver that.
SocketRocket
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The NHS would pay no tariffs on imported insulin unless the UK government wanted to set import tariffs on medication. Why would they want to do that.With reduced insulin, which keeps getting reported as a likely shortage as it's produced in EU, me and over a million others in UK are going to get super thin then sick fairly quickly. That's reasonably catastrophic on a personal level. It may be scaremongering (don't see why when these are generally civil service reports) and I think it's a resolvable issue but I really don't need this kind of daily reporting, do NHS pay for the new tariffs on EU produced insulin? Do I start trying to over-order it in case there's a shortage? I bet some people are trying that, there will be zero Blitz spirit for those short on daily medicines.
Diabetes UK are covering this issue as they should, would Brexiteers insist they are just scaremongering too?
The Yellowhammer info is not from some rabid Remainer on twitter, it's coming from HM Government and isn't out of date, albeit leaked or else we'd never get close to the facts from increasingly vague and hapless Govt cover up spokespeople like Gove and Cleverly. Johnson yesterday just seemed utterly out of his depth and looked exhausted....already - "I'll give it some ooomph" was the best he had, really.
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