Foxholer
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Care to put a tenner wager on the time period in which that will happen - aka be ratified? Proceeds going to H4H of course!
Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!
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SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
Not really as the time frame with politicians is unpredictable. Does it need to be accurate, if so within what tolerance, a day, a month, six months , a year. Are you suggesting it will not happen, if that's the case then yes.
Blue in Munich
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Parsaregood
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Exactly this sort of deal will be rejected in parliament again, no choice but to leave with no deal in that case. Nobody wishes to be part of this undemocratic state any longer, thank God we're going
Doon frae Troon
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'Boris Johnson holding his finger in the dam of bursting truth'
Nice bit of writing.
Nice bit of writing.
Taz
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Following Boris’s letter to the EU last night, the EU Commission has written to the Council in response to the points raised by the PM, refusing to budge on the Backstop and rejecting Boris’s accusation that it is not democratic. Shows what passes for ‘democracy’ in the eyes of the EU…
The letter claims the UK has offered “no realistic alternativesâ€, but says the Commission is “ready to work constructively within our mandate†and will “analyse any operational UK ideas that are compatible with the existing WAâ€.
The letter claims the UK has offered “no realistic alternativesâ€, but says the Commission is “ready to work constructively within our mandate†and will “analyse any operational UK ideas that are compatible with the existing WAâ€.
Whilst I agree that something needs to be in place that 'protects' the Good Friday Agreement I do think that the backstop proposed only, on the surface, recognises one side of the political divide. Its a halfway house to a united Ireland which many won't not accept under any circumstances. And in that respect I feel that the EU, at best, does not understand the issue at all. Although I'm more inclined to think the EU is being disgustingly opportunist.
Doon frae Troon
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Johnson keeps saying that there will be no checks on the NI Border.
In BJSPEAK this actually means that the checks will be 300 yards from the border.
In BJSPEAK this actually means that the checks will be 300 yards from the border.
I think he means the border posts that are going to be attacked and set fire to will be Irish / EU checkpoints manned by Irish staff, not UK staff. On the border or 300yds from the border, any check point on the NI side is not going to fair well and he doesn't want to be linked to them.Johnson keeps saying that there will be no checks on the NI Border.
In BJSPEAK this actually means that the checks will be 300 yards from the border.
drdel
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Unfortunately you're probably right it is the style of a bureaucratic management process. Not that they care but it is not in accord with the goals of the text of the Article 50.
Foxholer
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Eh? What 'goals'? Except 'Here's the process by which a Member State can leave'! Can you point to some text that defines 'the goals of the text of A50' that isn't simply 'opinion' (o simply a reference to it as a process of course'?
Taz
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Robert Peston
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As you know I take view EU won’t negotiate elimination of backstop. And Brussels sources corroborate today. BUT intriguingly there are tiny hints in Whitehall that in back channels EU & some member states hint at concessions on backstop. No10 keeping this extremely tight.
Mudball
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So our fearless leader has said we will leave on Halloween .. so a simple question, when the dust has settled and we have taken control (whatever that means). What is the glorious future we await?
We will still have to adhere to EU regulations if we want to trade with the EU (same as what we do with US at the moment)
Is Freedom of Movement the only thing that we will control?
The farmers and fisheries guys we’re an intrinsic part of the referendum but all now claim that they stand to lose!! We now have a magic money tree for NHS (even before leaving)
If everyone claims they are going to lose, who is to gain from us leaving?
We will still have to adhere to EU regulations if we want to trade with the EU (same as what we do with US at the moment)
Is Freedom of Movement the only thing that we will control?
The farmers and fisheries guys we’re an intrinsic part of the referendum but all now claim that they stand to lose!! We now have a magic money tree for NHS (even before leaving)
If everyone claims they are going to lose, who is to gain from us leaving?
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
Turkey and Make America Great Again.
Anybody working my industry (customs clearance). Plus lots who currently don’t but will find employment as the market place will be manic.
The politicians will of course carry on getting paid regardless too. They’ll just find something else to justify their roles.
Fade and Die
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I mainly voted Brexit to stop the Freedom of movement. Less cheap foreign labour flooding the market the better. Would be nice to think in a few years time I will hear a few more English voices on site again. ðŸ‘
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-politics-49393556
Happy days.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-politics-49393556
Happy days.
robinthehood
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Nothing, same old same old.
Something new to blame will need to be found though .
Something new to blame will need to be found though .
Mudball
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Finally a found an industry that will benefit.. Customs Clearance.. can see the logic there
I can see the logic here. However, this has a lot of ramification. Would we have many 'English speaking' folks to fill all jobs. If I can speak English and I am a good bricklayer from the EU, do i automatically qualify on the points based system and therefore back in play.
Also, if there arent enuf people going around, then does it mean cost will go up as a knockon effect of wage inflation (not always a bad thing provided this is across the board)
Mudball
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Weather... bloody cant make up its mind... but we can leave it nor remain it. Next referendum on 'Should day light saving be stopped'... lets take back control of GMT and ditch BST.
Fade and Die
Medal Winner
If you meet the criteria then you should certainly be let in. I’m not for cutting of our noses to spite our faces But I would like to see the return of proper apprenticeships for the young lads and lasses with a guarantee of a job at the end of it, not just a flood of foreign labour pushing prices down.
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