Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

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Have a read.
https://metro.co.uk/2019/08/18/leaked-memo-predicts-shortage-food-medicine-no-deal-brexit-10589863/
Hopefully nowhere this level, but if there wasn't a threat, why would all the supermarkets and other suppliers be stockpiling so much and doing so much (contingency) planning?
Have you read and considered that article. Once again, supply and price of goods entering the UK will be under the control of the UK authorities. Also, we dont import much refined fuel, again those projections are based on the UK placing low fuel tariffs so that UK refineries would close. It's all Twaddle.
 
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So are you saying 'many councils' are 'lying (sorry speculating)' when all the indicators are that that's exactly what will happen?

Talk about head-in-the-sand dogma! :rolleyes:

There isn’t a council in this country that wouldn’t jump at the chance to wring it’s hands and say it needs more money...

I dunno, maybe try to look at all angles?
 
Have you read and considered that article. Once again, supply and price of goods entering the UK will be under the control of the UK authorities. Also, we dont import much refined fuel, again those projections are based on the UK placing low fuel tariffs so that UK refineries would close. It's all Twaddle.
Maybe not much 'refined' fuel, but over 50% of fuel overall!

Twaddle abounds!
 
There isn’t a council in this country that wouldn’t jump at the chance to wring it’s hands and say it needs more money...

I dunno, maybe try to look at all angles?
Have you ever considered Politics as a career?

What makes you think I haven't 'looked at all angles' and rejected the ridiculous ones?
 
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Maybe not much 'refined' fuel, but over 50% of fuel overall!

Twaddle abounds!
Yes, twaddle does abound. Unrefined fuel that comes by ship from outside the EU. It's supply will not be affected by Brexit.
What about the other points I have made in responce to the article you posted, do you have any comments?
 
Yes, twaddle does abound. Unrefined fuel that comes by ship. It's supply will not be affected by Brexit.
What about the other points I have made in responce to the article you posted, do you have any comments?
No. We are just going round in circles - and old ground, which you've got you head firmly stuck in!
 
Not much refined? Only 28% of refined fuel comes from the EU, Sweden and the Netherlands. But if the other 72% of fuel was no longer subject to import duty of 7%... now there's a Brexit bonus.

Exactly unless the EU slaps export tariffs all the European exporters will still want to sell and the UK is not going to place taxes to disadvantage international imports -especially given the state of world trade!
 
There is a full copy of the PM's letter to Tusk: worth a read IMO...

https://www.express.co.uk/news/poli...son-irish-backstop-eu-deal-donald-tusk-letter

And I expect the EU will just shrug their shoulders

It’s the UK leaving the EU - any deal will favour the EU , if the UK don’t like it - tough.

Far too much crying and bleating about how unfair the EU are towards the UK because of Brexit - what the hell did the expect , did they think the EU would bend over backwards to make sure any deal is great for the UK
 
And I expect the EU will just shrug their shoulders

It’s the UK leaving the EU - any deal will favour the EU , if the UK don’t like it - tough.

Far too much crying and bleating about how unfair the EU are towards the UK because of Brexit - what the hell did the expect , did they think the EU would bend over backwards to make sure any deal is great for the UK
But No Deal will hurt them as well. What do they have to gain by not having a trade deal with the UK, I'll tell you what 'nothing but pain'.

I predict that if we leave without a deal they will want us to agree a Canada Plus type deal asap.
 
But No Deal will hurt them as well. What do they have to gain by not having a trade deal with the UK, I'll tell you what 'nothing but pain'.

I predict that if we leave without a deal they will want us to agree a Canada Plus type deal asap.

A no deal has the potential to hurt the UK more - even more so when we will then be the one looking for deals with our hands out. The UK needs a deal and it’s prob going to get one worse than being in the EU 😂 - can only laugh at how much of a complete cluster mess the UK political parties have made of this situation
 
A no deal has the potential to hurt the UK more - even more so when we will then be the one looking for deals with our hands out. The UK needs a deal and it’s prob going to get one worse than being in the EU 😂 - can only laugh at how much of a complete cluster mess the UK political parties have made of this situation

I think its fairly obvious that the terms will be worse than being otherwise every country in the EU will be offski. The unknown is how well the UK will fair with the freedoms it will gain.

As for the cluster; spot on. What a bunch of wimps and egomaniacs there are in Parliament.
 
A no deal has the potential to hurt the UK more - even more so when we will then be the one looking for deals with our hands out. The UK needs a deal and it’s prob going to get one worse than being in the EU 😂 - can only laugh at how much of a complete cluster mess the UK political parties have made of this situation
You almost sound as if you want the UK to fail. We are facing a change in trading arangements not signing a surrender article at the end of a war. It's all blown out of context and I can only laugh 🤣 at those not capable of questioning it. We can manage without a deal but it would be better for all sides if we agreed a simple free trade arrangement,even you must see this.
Regarding the mess the UK political parties have made, I agree whole heartedly. At least we have someone with a bit of backbone trying to get it sorted now.
 
You almost sound as if you want the UK to fail. We are facing a change in trading arangements not signing a surrender article at the end of a war. It's all blown out of context and I can only laugh 🤣 at those not capable of questioning it. We can manage without a deal but it would be better for all sides if we agreed a simple free trade arrangement,even you must see this.
Regarding the mess the UK political parties have made, I agree whole heartedly. At least we have someone with a bit of backbone trying to get it sorted now.

I see nothing has changed on here then 🙄

Will exit the thread once again.
 
Not much refined? Only 28% of refined fuel comes from the EU, Sweden and the Netherlands. But if the other 72% of fuel was no longer subject to import duty of 7%... now there's a Brexit bonus.
Would it? That would mean UK-inc losing all that revenue. I'm pretty certain that duty wouldn't disappear - certainly not overnight!
 
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