Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

[Hacker Khan]

Goves hat is in the ring.
One of his finer speeches

Proving that Corbyn is not quite up to the task is like shooting fish and is a pretty low bar to hurdle over. To be honest I suspect most of us on here could do that, but I'd not want any of us to be PM.

 

[Tashyboy]

So are you arguing that Brexit is a stupid thing to do as it will harm our trade? Or are we saying that an overheard conversion in a Chinese restaurant means we will still trade with Malta after we have Brexited? In which case I'll sleep easily at night now, knowing that my supply of Maltesers and falcons will not be impacted.

Well seeing as you didn't read the post correctly as in a “take away” means it wasn't eaten in a restaurant and the club conversation wasnt overheard in a restaurant. When i stated i asked a question. The Maltese people are not bothered one bit if we/when we leave. Trade will continue. They will be bothered about the money they lose from us. But will probably look ok to the east for that.
Glad to help.

 

[Tashyboy]

Casual racist slur aside, not sure I get your point .

Is it a casual racist slur or a slang term. Either way i am sure you know it was not meant as an insult.
Now what was that term Beezerk said in another thread.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Is it a casual racist slur or a slang term. Either way i am sure you know it was not meant as an insult.
Now what was that term Beezerk said in another thread.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinky

It’s an offensive term.

 

[robinthehood]

Is it a casual racist slur or a slang term. Either way i am sure you know it was not meant as an insult.
Now what was that term Beezerk said in another thread.

Yes it's racist.

 

[Old Skier]

So are you arguing that Brexit is a stupid thing to do as it will harm our trade? Or are we saying that an overheard conversion in a Chinese restaurant means we will still trade with Malta after we have Brexited? In which case I'll sleep easily at night now, knowing that my supply of Maltesers and falcons will not be impacted.

Nice twist, or, who would want to stop trading with a country just because it's no time in the EU. But you knew that.

 

[Old Skier]

I remember the days the term was used to describe a Chinese takeaway with most employees being U.K. Citizens, not a member of the Chinese race and nobody took offense. People getting offended who may have even used the term themselves.

 

[Tashyboy]

Yes it's racist.

I never knew you could be racist when using the term in relation to a take away. I apologise to all chinese restaurants that i have offended. However when talking about people from china i will continue to use the term chinese people.
You might want to consider this next time you are a smart arse when someone asks you about NI, and i like your comment coz i liked your humour. Sometimes try not looking for something thats nit there and stop dropping anchors. 👍

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I remember the days the term was used to describe a Chinese takeaway with most employees being U.K. Citizens, not a member of the Chinese race and nobody took offense. People getting offended who may have even used the term themselves.

Lots of terms were used “in the days” - doesn’t mean they are now not offensive because it was ok to use them in the past.

The term along with a number of other terms describing different nationalities and their establishments are no longer acceptable- even if they are not being used in a “derogatory” way.

 

[Old Skier]

People looking for offense when none was implied. World gets madder every day.

 

[Fade and Die]

I never knew you could be racist when using the term in relation to a take away. I apologise to all chinese restaurants that i have offended. However when talking about people from china i will continue to use the term chinese people.
You might want to consider this next time you are a smart arse when someone asks you about NI, and i like your comment coz i liked your humour. Sometimes try not looking for something thats nit there and stop dropping anchors. 👍

I think you have to say “tiddlywink” now. 👍

And they wonder why they get called snowflakes!😂

 

[Tashyboy]

I think you have to say “tiddlywink” now. 👍

And they wonder why they get called snowflakes!😂

Ah say you nearly got your ear bent as well. I thought you said " " TiddlerWinkle" and I thought how does he know, and fancy mentioning it on here. 😁

 

[Blue in Munich]

Lots of terms were used “in the days” - doesn’t mean they are now not offensive because it was ok to use them in the past.

The term along with a number of other terms describing different nationalities and their establishments are no longer acceptable- even if they are not being used in a “derogatory” way.

Depending on who is using them of course. World gets madder every day.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

People looking for offense when none was implied. World gets madder every day.

That’s always the “defence” when a well known clear offensive term is used - that along with snowflake etc , there are clear names which were at one point classed as “slang” in the 60’s , 70’s etc which are now offensive because we are supposed to be a more tolerant society - shame some are either ignorant or stuck back in the days and still think it’s ok to say “slang”

Depending on who is using them of course. World gets madder every day.

I guess it’s down to which term is used at the end of the day - there are some loonies that just go mental at anything , perfect example was the lady on some morning program who went mad because someone called her a baby a “beautiful girl” and she said “her gender hasn’t been decided yet” 😲 - what sort of utter madness is that.

 

[Hobbit]

Brown and black used in the wrong context are offensive. Surely its about context?

Utter bloody madness. Sorry but I'm on Tashy's side with this one. And if anyone wants to take offence at that...sad little individuals.

 

[Pin-seeker]

Wow I must know a lot of racists,because everyone I know would say “shall we order a chinky” when talking about Chinese takeaway.

Snowflakes just looking to be offended imo🤷‍♂️.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Brown and black used in the wrong context are offensive. Surely its about context?

Utter bloody madness. Sorry but I'm on Tashy's side with this one. And if anyone wants to take offence at that...sad little individuals.

Big difference between colours and a term that is derogatory based on the nationality of the person - colours quite clearly can be used in purely innocent context but the word that was used is a derogatory terms based on their race

“In the United Kingdom, chinky (or chinky chonky,in parts of northern England known as a chinkies, always in the plural) is an offensive slang word for a Chinese takeaway restaurant or Chinese food. However, along with 'chink', they are named among TV's most offensive words.Originally, the word 'chink' refers to a narrow opening, slit or small gap, a negative analogy used to deride peoples with epicanthic folds. In the 20th century, the word 'chink' was a term used by many white North Americans to exclude and mock the facial appearance of Chinese migrants.”

It’s a racial slur at the end of the day regardless of how it’s used.

 

[Hobbit]

Big difference between colours and a term that is derogatory based on the nationality of the person - colours quite clearly can be used in purely innocent context but the word that was used is a derogatory terms based on their race

“In the United Kingdom, chinky (or chinky chonky,in parts of northern England known as a chinkies, always in the plural) is an offensive slang word for a Chinese takeaway restaurant or Chinese food. However, along with 'chink', they are named among TV's most offensive words.Originally, the word 'chink' refers to a narrow opening, slit or small gap, a negative analogy used to deride peoples with epicanthic folds. In the 20th century, the word 'chink' was a term used by many white North Americans to exclude and mock the facial appearance of Chinese migrants.”

It’s a racial slur at the end of the day regardless of how it’s used.

Yep, no problem reading that. And just because someone has defined it that way doesn't mean they are right. The world's gone flippin' bonkers. I've seen racism, and suffered it on a daily basis, including a stabbing. Sorry but I totally disagree. The context refers to a meal, not an individual. There's no intelligence in not taking into account the context.

See it however you want Phil but I say its just stupid to not look at context.

 

[Old Skier]

That’s always the “defence” when a well known clear offensive term is used - that along with snowflake etc , there are clear names which were at one point classed as “slang” in the 60’s , 70’s etc which are now offensive because we are supposed to be a more tolerant society - shame some are either ignorant or stuck back in the days and still think it’s ok to say “slang”



I guess it’s down to which term is used at the end of the day - there are some loonies that just go mental at anything , perfect example was the lady on some morning program who went mad because someone called her a baby a “beautiful girl” and she said “her gender hasn’t been decided yet” 😲 - what sort of utter madness is that.

I am neither ignorant or stuck back in time nor have I ever used the term snowflake when referring to anyone's views but it appears that you feel it appropriate to throw about your normal insults when your somewhat strange reaction to a completely harmless post are questioned.

I'm not sure why I (this time) am the focus of your intolerance but feel free to crack on.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Yep, no problem reading that. And just because someone has defined it that way doesn't mean they are right. The world's gone flippin' bonkers. I've seen racism, and suffered it on a daily basis, including a stabbing. Sorry but I totally disagree. The context refers to a meal, not an individual. There's no intelligence in not taking into account the context.

See it however you want Phil but I say its just stupid to not look at context.

But where is the word derived from - their looks , looks defined by their race.

This is a good article talking to school kids

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp..../oct/04/schools-racism-hate-crime-brexit-vote

A good comment in there is - would you say “chinky” inside the restaurant- I’m guessing not so why ok outside not in range. One of my great friends from school runs a Chinese and he and his family find the term very offensive because of its origins.

And if Farage thinks it’s inoffensive that sums it up for me