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No ,just pretended it would.
Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!
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IanM
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Interesting angle in the FullFacts data
Massively amused by the assertion that the "low cost as a percentage of GDP" makes Federalism OK
I dont rate Junker, Tusk and Barnier....when do I get to vote them out?
Massively amused by the assertion that the "low cost as a percentage of GDP" makes Federalism OK
I dont rate Junker, Tusk and Barnier....when do I get to vote them out?
Mudball
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and they are any better than the 600 odd folks in Westminister???
bluewolf
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Always tickled by the speed at which people distanced themselves from the Big Red Bus..
You are, of course, correct. The Bus did not state that the NHS was going to get another £350m per week.. However, it did state that the NHS was one of the areas that could be improved by the £350m per week that we are sending to the EU..
IIRC, the exact statement was..
"We send the EU £350m per week.. Let's fund the NHS instead."
So, if not the NHS, then where is the £350m per week going to be spent? Could I recommend using it to rebuild manufacturing in the North? We all know that the North of England is far from a Tory priority. They prefer to let us rot....
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Always tickled by the speed at which people distanced themselves from the Big Red Bus..
You are, of course, correct. The Bus did not state that the NHS was going to get another £350m per week.. However, it did state that the NHS was one of the areas that could be improved by the £350m per week that we are sending to the EU..
IIRC, the exact statement was..
"We send the EU £350m per week.. Let's fund the NHS instead."
So, if not the NHS, then where is the £350m per week going to be spent? Could I recommend using it to rebuild manufacturing in the North? We all know that the North of England is far from a Tory priority. They prefer to let us rot....
No we should use it to rebuild our industrial base in the Midlands.
The North has had more than its fair share over the last 30 years.
There, something else for us all to disagree upon.
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Jamesbrown
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No just implied that the money could be better spent.
The remain campaign base their entire “uninformed†charade based on that bus, but they appear to be only group who took it literally....
Jamesbrown
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Really.... how else do i read what was written here
It doesn’t say “we willâ€. Also that bus is not legally binding!
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Well, next election you get to choose!
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Actually they based their campaign around economics and trade, yet fail to grasp an economic principle taught to GCSE students in the first month. "Opportunity cost"
SocketRocket
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No, I didn't mean that. The two faced Remainers like I said.💩
I don't believe any of them that ask for a second referendum and suggest it's for any reason other than remaining.
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SocketRocket
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Perhaps it's not.Perhaps 'the UK's slowing of economic growth - caused by Brexit'!
Foxholer
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Sounds like a good idea.....
But check the map in this article out! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40176349
Do you really think that's going to happen?
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Sounds like a good idea.....
But check the map in this article out! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40176349
Do you really think that's going to happen?
Well the Conservatives have more seats in the Midlands but we are pragmatic.
We can be bought. 😉
On the issue of growth rates, who is dropping/gaining/flat lining, you need to look at trends to date this year and forecast. And then consider the current financial figure, e.g. if someone has £100 with a 2% growth rate = £102. However, someone with £500 and a 1% growth rate = £505. The £2 obviously doesn't have the same spending power as £5.
There are currently, snapshot in time, only 3 with a flat trend. Greece with 2% of very little is still very little. Italy with close on 2% but a rising debt. They could go either way with their ambitious plans. And the UK's flat line trend. The dip the UK had late last year/early this is now a flat line.
Every other EU country, including France and Germany, has a significant downward trend. The UK, with all the negative spin, isn't doing as bad as people think, and is doing significantly better than all those countries that are cosy in the EU and don't have a (x)exit hanging over them.
Quite what it all means I haven't got a clue. I'll let you guys pick your own spin for it.
There are currently, snapshot in time, only 3 with a flat trend. Greece with 2% of very little is still very little. Italy with close on 2% but a rising debt. They could go either way with their ambitious plans. And the UK's flat line trend. The dip the UK had late last year/early this is now a flat line.
Every other EU country, including France and Germany, has a significant downward trend. The UK, with all the negative spin, isn't doing as bad as people think, and is doing significantly better than all those countries that are cosy in the EU and don't have a (x)exit hanging over them.
Quite what it all means I haven't got a clue. I'll let you guys pick your own spin for it.
Doon frae Troon
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Hey Grandad/Ma you are yesterday's people.
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The 'significant downward trend' was in the growth, not the size, of the economy!
While for the 2 powerhouses of EU (France and Germany) growth might have a downward trend, it was still (marginally) greater than UK's.
Such 'misuse' of stats (I'm pretty sure that it was accidental in this case) can be laughable/extreme! I remember Rob Muldoon (while PM) once commending the latest disastrous ones - 'spinning' that 'the reduction of the increase of the inflation rate' was actually evidence that his policies were working!
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Hey Grandad/Ma you are yesterday's people.
......................... and your point of offering that totally irrelevant post is?
drdel
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Perhaps 'the UK's slowing of economic growth - caused by Brexit'!
OR...., High debt in USA, EU etc and China's economy has contracted, USA has put in place sanctions, less demand for manufactured products, uncertainty in environmental regs and car production of diesels
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