I do believe that a significant number of people voted Leave because they were promised a Deal. Not all though. A minority are "Thick Racists", as evidenced last week. A signigicant number took the time to educate themselves and voted accordingly.
That all smacks of someone being petulant due to not getting their own way. How does he think 17.4 million leave voters feel.
A number of people voted remain because they had been scared by the rantings of those I mentioned earlier (I live with someone who did) Some Leavers are quite probably antisemitic thick racists as evidenced recently, others as you say took time to educate themselves. It's just the way it is.
You may have noticed that I didn't blame the people who voted. I blamed the people who fed them excrement from the start.
I can understand were you’re coming from, but you add Cameron to that list and question why he refused to allow people to plan for a leave vote prior to the referendum.
)It wasn’t a no deal out though Tash!
Because you keep going back to the MP’s, you seem to be saying that in the interests of democracy they should accept a bad deal, I believe the last 4 embarrassing months is because some are actually trying to do their job.
I think we can both agree that history is not going to be kind to some people. Cameron and May will no doubt get the brunt of that. The rest will depend on the success of Brexit. If it's a failure then I suspect that the likes of Farage will become a historical joke. A clown figure of low repute. Bojo, Gove and R-M along the same lines.I can understand were you’re coming from, but you add Cameron to that list and question why he refused to allow people to plan for a leave vote prior to the referendum.
But then look at TM, she put herself forward for PM, then decided on a GE when she had a bigger majority, then refused to discuss the negotiations with anyone outside her inner circle.
All of this in the full knowledge of what Farage, Johnson, Gove, Rees-Mogg, Banks, Wigmore, Baker etc were up to, remember she campaigned for remain.
Out of everyone who’s been involved the ultimately responsibility sits firmly on her shoulders.
(imo of course
Unfortunately as much as I despise Farage, Johnson etc, I would rather hope Brexit is a success for the Country.
Until we hear the details I’m still confused:
I don't though. I don't want us to accept her deal as it stands. I have explained many times we should have insisted on only agreeing the terms of departure and future trading arrangements together. The embarrassing situation is due to mps not accepting we voted to leave. This is true of all the political parties.
We must have either a withdraw agreement or leave without a deal. ALL the current votes are only on the future relationship, things like a customs union are not a WA.
No, im not saying that. How many times must i say i dont like her deal. My current preference would be to renegotiate something better or leave now. What I don't want is us remaining or accepting a customs union type soft Brexit, this is what many MPs are trying to create, if we accept that we just as well stay in.
Well looks like it’s going to be a delay
Not really. She has met him previously very recently and they have very different views on this. It's a meeting she knows will fail. Equally she has met many people recently and paid lip service to all of them. Meet, ignore, meet, ignore.
