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Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

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Liverpoolphil said:
Why would I highlight that post ? It’s a post I agree with - the person was spot - it was good to see people acting peacefully towards each other instead of hatred ? You all leapt on that post as if it deeply insulted you all - maybe you should take a step back and look at the way you talk to people on here - especially people who vote a different way to you , your arrogance is astounding.


I didn’t “leap” on any word - you said “remainers” - that is a group of people who voted remain , if you meant just some remainers then you should have said “some” - to save yourself insulting whole groups be more specific - and ranting after it doesn’t save face

And people are entitled to say whatever they want about leaving or staying in the EU - that’s called free speech , they are entitled to have a protest , have a match , create a petition without people like you insulting them - it’s called their democratic right

At the end of the day the voting public can do nothing - from the minute the vote was complete it was down to the political parties to sort it out - yet people still keep trying to blame “remainers”

Can you tell me exactly what affect the voting public have had on the process ?
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Don't need to save face, seems I am not the only one who has issues with your selective words. Out of interest how many others who have posted on this thread have said " some" remainers or " some" Brexiteers", when talking about this subject. How many times have you pulled them up.
 
pauljames87 said:
The tories will always oppose such a system because it will stop them having their unbreakable strong holds keeping them in power

Only 1 million votes in the general election last time round but the amount of seats was uncatchable

I feel though the major party’s need to do more. The rise of other parties is only making it easier for the tories to stay in power .. labour need to appeal to the other voters of green and liberal
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Speaking of missing important words out....I trust that you meant '1 million MORE votes....'.

Btw SNP actually got less than 1 million votes, but won 35 seats! That demonstrates how General Elections in UK are different 'beasts' to Referendums!
 
Foxholer said:
Speaking of missing important words out....I trust that you meant '1 million MORE votes....'.

Btw SNP actually got less than 1 million votes, but won 35 seats! That demonstrates how General Elections in UK are different 'beasts' to Referendums!
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I meant only 1 million votes in the result of the election , but yes 1 million more works the same
 
So who is running whom?...

1) The MPs dont like Mays deal and wont vote for it.. so they took back control and get their own indicative vote

2) May now says that she will not consider the result of the indicative vote and hers is the only deal..

WTF is going on..
 
I notice there are a lot of comments regarding the BBC's bias towards Remain. Why not e mail the BBC's programs that do this to complain. I have!

Also I am very lucky to be in a position of being able to stop work, any time I like, and if we do not come out of the EU I will never work again. My income total cannot currenly be taxed and that will include the pittance the gov will give me to live on, so I will be happy in the knowledge that NONE of my money will be going to support the UNELECTED (remember that bit) EU plonkers and all the new EU countries. Remember Greece being poor? They were allowed to join the EU and we gave them loads of dosh. They all rushed out and bought new cars, but couldn't be bothered to actually do any work to produce anything so ended up in even more debt that they will NEVER EVER be able to pay back even the INTEREST let alone the actual debt. LOL.
 
Mudball said:
So who is running whom?...

1) The MPs dont like Mays deal and wont vote for it.. so they took back control and get their own indicative vote

2) May now says that she will not consider the result of the indicative vote and hers is the only deal..

WTF is going on..
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Ha ha. Someone else has got it!!! Catch 22 I believe this is called. The only way to resolve it iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiissssssssssssssssssssssssssssss........ another vote.Then we're back in. But then won't we have another one in 2 years......best of three and all that?
 
Crazyface said:
I notice there are a lot of comments regarding the BBC's bias towards Remain. Why not e mail the BBC's programs that do this to complain. I have!

Also I am very lucky to be in a position of being able to stop work, any time I like, and if we do not come out of the EU I will never work again. My income total cannot currenly be taxed and that will include the pittance the gov will give me to live on, so I will be happy in the knowledge that NONE of my money will be going to support the UNELECTED (remember that bit) EU plonkers and all the new EU countries. Remember Greece being poor? They were allowed to join the EU and we gave them loads of dosh. They all rushed out and bought new cars, but couldn't be bothered to actually do any work to produce anything so ended up in even more debt that they will NEVER EVER be able to pay back even the INTEREST let alone the actual debt. LOL.
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its this sort of nonsense that sadly people believe and why we shouldn't have had a referendum.
 
Crazyface said:
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Also I am very lucky to be in a position of being able to stop work, any time I like, and if we do not come out of the EU I will never work again. My income total cannot currenly be taxed and that will include the pittance the gov will give me to live on, so I will be happy in the knowledge that NONE of my money will be going to support the UNELECTED (remember that bit) EU plonkers and all the new EU countries. Remember Greece being poor? They were allowed to join the EU and we gave them loads of dosh. They all rushed out and bought new cars, but couldn't be bothered to actually do any work to produce anything so ended up in even more debt that they will NEVER EVER be able to pay back even the INTEREST let alone the actual debt. LOL.
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You seem to me to have been a classic 'victim' of the Leave campaign's propaganda!
 
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Crazyface said:
I notice there are a lot of comments regarding the BBC's bias towards Remain. Why not e mail the BBC's programs that do this to complain. I have!...
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I don't believe there's any real bias (either way). The renewed activity ('militancy' even) of the Remain view, both inside and outside Parliament, is THE news story. It would be wrong - and indeed biased - for the Beeb to ignore the 'story'!
 
I see Mr Rees Mogg wants to change his mind and vote again for a deal that will make us a "slave state" :eek:
 
jp5 said:
I see Mr Rees Mogg wants to change his mind and vote again for a deal that will make us a "slave state" :eek:
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The Victorian mill owning look mp who doesn’t pay tax on his companies earnings likes a deal to make as a slave state? How long before workers rights are completely corroded away
 
Mudball said:
So who is running whom?...

1) The MPs dont like Mays deal and wont vote for it.. so they took back control and get their own indicative vote

2) May now says that she will not consider the result of the indicative vote and hers is the only deal..

WTF is going on..
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Not quite, Nay has said she may not be able to deliver on the results of the indicative votes as there may be 2 or more incompatible options or europe may not agree. She has also pointed out that she is not legally bound to follow the results, ironically in the same way she is not bound to apply the referendum result
 
I did enjoy the SNP guy in the Commons yesterday saying that the indicative votes should be made binding as "if our votes don't count we might as well all go home" while at the same time his party is in favour of overturning the referendum result meaning that the votes of 17.4 million people in the UK wouldn't count.
 
ColchesterFC said:
I did enjoy the SNP guy in the Commons yesterday saying that the indicative votes should be made binding as "if our votes don't count we might as well all go home" while at the same time his party is in favour of overturning the referendum result meaning that the votes of 17.4 million people in the UK wouldn't count.
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Yea but that's not really the same thing.

One is a group of people tasked with doing the best for the country. It's literally their job.

The other was a group of people who were ignorant to the potential outcome of their actions. It's not their job and we don't have operate in a system whereby the public decide governmental actions
 
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