Foxholer
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They are still 'defying the will of the people' though!
The type of Brexit required was, quite sensibly, not asked!
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The type of Brexit required was, quite sensibly, not asked!
Doon frae Troon
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Don't say I did not warn you.
I have two big bundles in my loft + kitchen towels.
Also 1,200 litres of heating fuel in the tank.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/brex...-of-no-deal-brexit/ar-BBV3erW?ocid=spartandhp
I have two big bundles in my loft + kitchen towels.
Also 1,200 litres of heating fuel in the tank.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/brex...-of-no-deal-brexit/ar-BBV3erW?ocid=spartandhp
GB72
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Indeed so on that basis any stance that stops the quickest brexit from hapenning is defying the will if the people
drdel
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Exactly. How on earth could a referendum ask questions with 'options' for leaving when you are about to enter discussions on how to separate and how to deal in the future. The whole issue has been frustrated by the pseudo pretence that you can discuss separation without taking any cognizance of what you BOTH want for the future.
If we'd had discussed the future mutual advantages to the UK and EU of agreed alignments in some areas and how we could develop systems we could trust to 'police' each other the daft bit about Ireland and a 'backstop' contingency would have been addressed in a mature way.
Foxholer
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By their definition, May's deal is NOT Brexit!
Doon frae Troon
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Is that the one where the leader has just resigned due to anti Islamic posts.
Remind me again ,why did Nigel leave UKIP to join them [whatever they are called].
GB72
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But who is to say that is right. By not defining brexit in the original vote you now have a massive grey area and hence the problems. To parts of the tory party anything less than a no deal brexit is not brexit. Which is the will of the people?
Foxholer
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Eminently sensible, given the Brit tendency to 'panic buy' at the drop of a hat!Don't say I did not warn you.
I have two big bundles in my loft + kitchen towels.
Also 1,200 litres of heating fuel in the tank.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/brex...-of-no-deal-brexit/ar-BBV3erW?ocid=spartandhp
Btw Bit of a slip missing a rather important word (tonnes) in the caption!
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Foxholer
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It matters (to them) not a jot! They have their definition - which I actually agree with, if not their intransgence of allowing a 'phased implimentation'
That was never gouing to happen!
The question was, effectively, 'Do we Leave or do we Stay'! And the Leave side won, therefore anything other than 'Leave' is not 'the will of the people! Now HOW we leave was always up for negotiation!
GB72
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Which is why leave needed defining. What remaining ties with europe count as not leaving.
drdel
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Don't say I did not warn you.
I have two big bundles in my loft + kitchen towels.
Also 1,200 litres of heating fuel in the tank.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/brex...-of-no-deal-brexit/ar-BBV3erW?ocid=spartandhp
Perhaps their stock pile might come in handy if they jack up the price and just happen make a killing.
drdel
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How do you define something that is not within your gift to unilaterally define as it is to be subject to the outcome of future discussions?
GB72
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In the same way that parliament is discussing options not on the table. For something as far reaching as this you need clarity and there is none. Now it cannot be ascertained who voted wanting or expecting a no deal and who voted based on the promised, easily negotiated exit agreement. With no definition who can say what the will of the people is as it is open to massive levels of interpretation
Mudball
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Agree... but may i ask.. what specifically is the will of the people? Other than 'we want to leave', the will of the people is a rainbow of wills - Norway, Canada, Hard, Semi-Soft, Soft, Swiss, WTO, MFN , i-want-2-change-my-mind, Backstop, No-Backstop, Hard Border, No Border, No Immigration, Single Market, No Single Market, etc etc.
Are you able to summarise in 1 sentence the Will of the people that should be implemented and therefore should be part of the Deal/WA.
As far as blaming Remainers - their 'Will' has been singular since Day 1.
Answer on a postcard please -- and no blaming others.
(I have also added a smiley in case a Leaver gets offended)
Foxholer
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Not imo!
It depends! But ERG's definition certainly works.
Btw 'It's the EU we are leaving, not Europe!
Foxholer
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The bold bit!
Crazyface
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No problem, it is your DEMOCRATIC right to be wrong.
Crazyface
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Because the deal that is best, the EU want to charge us for. So if a company said to you we will charge you to do business with us. as well as charge you for our goods, would you say ok and shell out the money or look for a better deal?
GB72
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Actually the payments are based on financial promises made by the uk that already existed. To leave and not honor those commitments will leave years of litigation at a cost of millions and a serious impact on the uks ability to borrow globally.
GB72
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Any person who votes their conscience can never be wrong.
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