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Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!
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Hacker Khan
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Doon frae Troon
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.................. and quite a few middle aged people have since become auldies, or doesn't that count/fit your agenda?
No
In 2014 there was a large age group banding of Scots who did not support Indy [and probably EU membership] at 65+.
If the vote had stopped at 55 years old it would have been a clear win for independence.
It is basically a tic toc situation unless many of the 58 to 67 year olds change their minds.
With the current Wastemonster mucking fuddle I would imagine that is very unlikely.
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Did someone say that the Tories bribed/bunged the DUP more money than Comic Relief raised in 31 years.
If true that is a bit of a wow.
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You spotted it!!
I thought seeing as we were getting the village idiots posting any old rubbish I'd join in too...
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God forbid someone is making it up, but any chance of a link where it indicates NI will be getting more money above what was already promised.
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Is Bercow about to chuck a spanner in May's 3rd MV plan? - seems to be building up to that presently with a lengthy speech and 19th century precedents.
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Is Bercow about to chuck a spanner in May's 3rd MV plan? - seems to be building up to that presently with a lengthy speech and 19th century precedents.
He likes the sound of his own voice today.
Taz
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looks like hes put a lid on MV3 !
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He did seem to go on a bit but I think he knows it's a big call and was trying to justify it fully........in his own wordy way!
What next? Short delay with No Deal or a long delay and total renegotiation? if it is the latter May needs to go this week. Fresh blood needed.
ColchesterFC
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If the same proposition can't be brought before the house again does this mean that a 2nd referendum has now also been ruled out? MPs voted and rejected the idea of a 2nd referendum when they voted on it last week and this decision seems to rule out them being able to vote on it again. Could the speaker just have inadvertently scuppered those that want us to remain in the EU?
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I think the man has just been found out.
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Maybe he's done us all a favour if it forces the resignation of T May as PM? She has no hand left to play other than go with No Deal and quit or go back to Brussels asking for a full renegotiation which will also means she has to quit, doesn't it?
Taz
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I wouldn't trust him if he said hello 
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I wouldn't trust him if he said hello
Nor does the leader of the house.
Big Jim
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i'm not surprised, he's a tory!I wouldn't trust him if he said hello
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Big Jim
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wasn't he conservative MP for Buckingham before becoming speaker, or doesn't that count?Is he.
Hacker Khan
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I think it depends on whether it was a vote in the house to show their wishes or a vote that is legally enforceable (again draw your own parallels with the original referendum here). And the one on the second referendum was just one to show their wishes on the subject, it was not ruling one out for ever. Hence the reason why Labour whipped their MPs to abstain as they thought there may well be a better time to get the proposal accepted. Or it may be that you could bring the vote on a second referendum back in a slightly different format and that is OK. But I may be talking garbage as very few people do seem to know every arcane rule about parliamentary business and as we are in such uncharted territory it's hard to keep up.
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Is Bercow about to chuck a spanner in May's 3rd MV plan? - seems to be building up to that presently with a lengthy speech and 19th century precedents.
The trouble is with being in the remain or Brexit camp is that people only begin to hear what they want. I said last week when this was first mentioned it could pee on a few peoples parades be it Brexiteers or remainers.
When the first vote was massively rejected. Theresa May was able to go back to the EU and " negotiate " a better deal, allegadly. That is why she was able to come back with a new second proposal. Which again was rejected. This possible third vote, what exactly has changed. To the best of my knowledge nowt. All the leaders of the EU are supposed to agree on any changes and they have not met yet, plus they said " don't bother coming back". We will only know once the legal eagles have had a look. If it is nowt, we won't get a third vote.
What narks me was the Scotish guy on QT last week said that we should not of had the second vote as it broke Parliment law. He was either lying when he said it, or simply did not know what the ruling was. Either way it was very poor. What was worse was no one was able pull him up and say he was wrong.
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