Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

[Slime]

Why the hell is Corbyn going to Brussels to tell them his version of an exit plan ? Last time i looked he was not in charge of the government so why is he over there ? This stuff is just playing in to their hands regarding negotiations
he needs to keep out of it and just keep representing terrorists and their wives who want to return here . He really is a t**t of the first order .

Rant over now going to watch the Sheffield flypast in honor of people who died to keep us free so this knob could spout his crap .

To cause chaos ........................... it's what he does.

 

[Foxholer]

Perhaps but he wasn’t given the right by his constituency think I would ask for him to be removed as he is not representing me. I think some have made the comment about Anna Soubry not representing her constituency.

Is it YOUR contituency? If not, what right do you have to suggest one way or the other?

Btw. I'm not suggesting your view is wrong, merely somewhat 'undemocratic' (well, at least in the UK version of democracy!).

 

[drdel]

Interesting that the Dublin plan, in the event of a No Deal, is to use technology and precleared customs to avoid border checks!!

 

[SocketRocket]

Interesting that the Dublin plan, in the event of a No Deal, is to use technology and precleared customs to avoid border checks!!

This whole idiotic situation with the Irish border has been manipulated by the EU's insistence that a free trade agreement would not be negotiated untill the Irish border and monetry settlement had been agreed. If we would have got on with the trade agreement instead of prevaricating over the border there wouldn't be an issue. We were really stupid to go along with that and I can't understand why May isn't making more mileage from it.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Put Blackstock on a diet and you may fit a few more in.

What a crass comment to make. Disgusting.

 

[Foxholer]

This whole idiotic situation with the Irish border has been manipulated by the EU's insistence that a free trade agreement would not be negotiated untill the Irish border and monetry settlement had been agreed. If we would have got on with the trade agreement instead of prevaricating over the border there wouldn't be an issue. We were really stupid to go along with that and I can't understand why May isn't making more mileage from it.

That was pretty obviously ALWAYS going to be the case though!

The EU has ALWAYS been in control of the agenda! That's why the 'threat' of No Deal (with consequent damage to the economy of EU members) is UK's 'best' negotiating position.

It's all about brinkmanship - and EU seems far stonger/united at that than the UK!

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Why the hell is Corbyn going to Brussels to tell them his version of an exit plan ? Last time i looked he was not in charge of the government so why is he over there ? This stuff is just playing in to their hands regarding negotiations
he needs to keep out of it and just keep representing terrorists and their wives who want to return here . He really is a t**t of the first order .

Rant over now going to watch the Sheffield flypast in honor of people who died to keep us free so this knob could spout his crap .

Please remember their have been plenty of Labour supporters who have given their life for this Country and most died to ensure democracy and freedom of speech. You can’t pick and choose who died on who’s behalf.

Surely we should be trying by any means to ensure we get a deal approved by Parliament on Brexit and if Corbyn can help that process then why not!

 

[Foxholer]

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Surely we should be trying by any means to ensure we get a deal approved by Parliament on Brexit and if Corbyn can help that process then why not!

You have a far more generous view of Corbyn's motives than I do!!

 

[SocketRocket]

What a crass comment to make. Disgusting.

😂😂 Good try but a bit pathetic considering your previous.

 

[SocketRocket]

Please remember their have been plenty of Labour supporters who have given their life for this Country and most died to ensure democracy and freedom of speech. You can’t pick and choose who died on who’s behalf.

Surely we should be trying by any means to ensure we get a deal approved by Parliament on Brexit and if Corbyn can help that process then why not!

Fine sentiments but hardly appropriate in this case. What exactly has people giving their lives for their country got to do with him, he has made a career of cosying up to enemies of our country. I also cant see how he should be talking to the EU negotiators on our behalf, all he can be doing is advising them how to screw us.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

You have a far more generous view of Corbyn's motives than I do!!

Gee thanks!

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Fine sentiments but hardly appropriate in this case. What exactly has people giving their lives for their country got to do with him, he has made a career of cosying up to enemies of our country. I also cant see how he should be talking to the EU negotiators on our behalf, all he can be doing is advising them how to screw us.

Because instead of actually seeing what Corbyn can or cannot do we get the same old lines dragged out.
Mandella was a classed as a terrorist, the Queen shook hands with the IRA etc, move on and dismiss him on his current policies not something that may or may not have had an impact on the troubles in NI nearly 50 years ago.
Corbyn is the leader of the Labour Party and supporters of all Parties have given their lives in defence of this Country.

 

[Foxholer]

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Corbyn is the leader of the Labour Party and supporters of all Parties have given their lives in defence of this Country.

Please excuse me if I don't trust him or his motives!

The Labour Party would, imo, be far better seved if Yvette Cooper was leader! Provided she could keep 'her old man' out of the limelight!

 

[SocketRocket]

Because instead of actually seeing what Corbyn can or cannot do we get the same old lines dragged out.
Mandella was a classed as a terrorist, the Queen shook hands with the IRA etc, move on and dismiss him on his current policies not something that may or may not have had an impact on the troubles in NI nearly 50 years ago.
Corbyn is the leader of the Labour Party and supporters of all Parties have given their lives in defence of this Country.

Your saying it again, Corbyn isnt giving his life for anyone, I can't understand why you are posting this.
Corbyn is a nasty, two faced hypocrite who is a real threat to this country. The movements in his party this week are just the start, he has overstayed his role and will soon be turfed out before he destroys his once great party.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Your saying it again, Corbyn isnt giving his life for anyone, I can't understand why you are posting this.
Corbyn is a nasty, two faced hypocrite who is a real threat to this country. The movements in his party this week are just the start, he has overstayed his role and will soon be turfed out before he destroys his once great party.

Have you or did you read the Labour Party Manifesto at the last GE and their/his policy on Defence?

Were has he ever stated he doesn’t support our servicemen and women?

Perhaps people should do their own research rather than what they read in the papers.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Please excuse me if I don't trust him or his motives!

The Labour Party would, imo, be far better seved if Yvette Cooper was leader! Provided she could keep 'her old man' out of the limelight!

Great, well done on having an opinion!

 

[Foxholer]

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Corbyn is a nasty, two faced hypocrite...

Seems to me that's a 'job requirement' for any politician! So an unintended compliment!

 

[SocketRocket]

Have you or did you read the Labour Party Manifesto at the last GE and their/his policy on Defence?

Were has he ever stated he doesn’t support our servicemen and women?

Perhaps people should do their own research rather than what they read in the papers.

Have you been drinking? Where did I mention his stance on defence, when I say he is a threat to this country I mean the damage he would do to the countries economy and just about every other sphere he could influence and while you mention it our defence as well, would you trust him with that?

 

[SocketRocket]

Seems to me that's a 'job requirement' for any politician! So an unintended compliment!

I dont share that level of cynicism, there are many Politicians of all parties who are honourable people with good intentions.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Have you been drinking? Where did I mention his stance on defence, when I say he is a threat to this country I mean the damage he would do to the countries economy and just about every other sphere he could influence and while you mention it our defence as well, would you trust him with that?

Right now, yes I would if they did what they promised in their manifesto.
Have our Armed Forces improved or declined under the Tories?
At least Labour continually exceeded the 2% of GDP on Defence when in charge, the tories are not doing that, we now have fewer planes, ships, people.
But try and have a discusdion on this and straight away we get the same old, same old, terrorist sympathiser.